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[Daywalkah]

Frost Giants anger me because the creature they bring that lights them all on fire and they die before they can attack . You said you want people to find out about megabeasts on their own so here is the creature.

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PHOENIX BURNS THEM ALL WITH FIXED TEMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

More exclamation points than necessary.

[Mephansteras]

Wait, the Frost Giants brought one with them?? I wonder how that happened?

[Daywalkah]

It isn't a bug, don't worry. I didn't see Frost Giants often so I added some new biomes and I modded the phoenixes a bit.

[Mephansteras]

Ooooh, ok. Got me worried there for a second.

[ank]

Succes!
A massive army of Dinasaurs, or whatever, came and killed me small 2 dwarf army, and everything else.
this is the first time i have ever lost a fortress, good work!
i am looking forward spending many month trying to beat this mod.
thanks!

[Mephansteras]

Ah, excellent! Now you'll have to let me know how you fare against the Frost Giants...

[bhamv]

Something interesting just happened, which I shall describe in spoilers, because it apparently involves a new creature.

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A new megabeast, a Mephansteras, showed up on my map.  However, despite appearing as a foreign entity (ie, red block on the map), it showed up as being friendly on the unit list.  My military dwarves did not attack it, whether on duty or not, whether set to harass animals or not.  Nor did it attack any of my dwarves or animals.  It just waltzed into my fortress, skipping past a few cage traps and weapon traps, and proceeded to hang around my barracks (which is just inside the main entrance) and tear apart the beds inside.  My dwarves do not panic at the sight of it, nor do they cancel any jobs, they just go about their business while it destroys furniture.

Not sure if this is intended behavior.  It's quite annoying though.  And now that it's inside, I'm not sure how I can kill it.

[Mephansteras]

Hmmm.

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Looking at the raws, the only thing I can think of that would cause that is the INTELLIGENT tag. It's destroying your beds because it has BUILDINGDESTROYER:2.  But it's not supposed to be Friendly. Try replacing INTELLIGENT with [CAN_SPEAK][CAN_LEARN] and see what that does. Although I recommend that you have all your soldiers around it when you do that, since if it does go hostile you're in for a nasty fight.

[bhamv]

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Hmm, nope, that hasn't helped, he's still just standing around.  Wait, no, he just knocked over a workshop.

[darkflagrance]

Remove [CAN_Speak]. I believe the only change from [intelligent] to [can speak][can learn] is the loss of [can civ] which is meaningless for megabeasts.

Edit: Yeah, it might be too late because it's already been generated...you can try Dwarf Companion to change its allegiance?

[bhamv]

Nope, that didn't work either.  Nor did removing CAN_LEARN. 

I don't have to regen a new world for these changes, do I?

[bhamv]

Hey Meph, I'm back again.

New game, new world, in fact completely new computer.  A Mephansteras showed up again, and once again it's friendly.

CAN_SPEAK, CAN_LEARN, INTELLIGENT etc were all removed the last time I encountered this issue, and this is a completely new world, so those are definitely not causing the problem.  Here's the current version of its raws, in my objects folder, in case you need it:

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   [CREATURE:MEPHANSTERAS]
   [NAME:mephansteras:mephansteras:mephansteras]
   [TILE:'&'][COLOR:0:0:1]   
   [GENPOWER:2]
   [MEGABEAST][POWER]
   [liKES_FIGHTING]
   [CANOPENDOORS]   
   [LARGE_PREDATOR]
   [MEANDERER]
   [BUILDINGDESTROYER:2]
   [EXTRACT:mephansteras venom:7:0:1]
   [EXTRACT_VALUE:1000]
   [EXTRACT_PARALYZE]
   [EXTRACT_ANTIDOTE:mephansteras antivenin:7:0:0:100]
   [PREFSTRING:dark power]
   [PREFSTRING:terrifying majesty]
   [BODY:HUMANOID_4ARMS:2EYES:HEART:GUTS:BRAIN:MOUTH:TAIL:TAIL_STINGER]
   [BODYGLOSS:INSECT_UPPERBODY:INSECT_LOWERBODY]
   [NOPAIN][EXTRAVISION][NOSTUN][NOSKULL][NOBONES][NOFEAR]
   [BLOODTYPE:W][CHITIN]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:TAIL_STINGER:sting:stings:1:6:PIERCE][SPECIALATTACK_INJECT_EXTRACT:50:100]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:GRASP:claw:claws:1:6:SLASH][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
   [ATTACK:SECOND:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:10:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
   [FEATURE_ATTACK_GROUP]
   [SIZE:22]
   [DAMBLOCK:16]
   [FAT:2]
   [EQUIPS]
   [NO_SLEEP]
   [STANDARD_FLESH]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10067]
   [LAYERING:10]
   [BIOME:ANY_LAND]
   [SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
   [PERSONALITY:ANGER:0:50:75]
   [PERSONALITY:IMMODERATION:20:75:100]
   [PERSONALITY:EXCITEMENT_SEEKING:25:60:100]
   [PERSONALITY:CHEERFULNESS:0:40:80]
   [PERSONALITY:ALTRUISM:0:25:80]
   [PERSONALITY:MODESTY:0:40:80]
   [PERSONALITY:SYMPATHY:0:25:50]
   [SPHERE:DARKNESS]
   [SPHERE:NIGHTMARES]

[Mephansteras]

How odd. I can't see anything in there that would cause it to be friendly.

Perhaps it is the leader of a civ that's not at war with your civ? Although in that case I'd wonder why it was randomly showing up.

[Lord Urist]

I think this is something to do with the game anyway, possibly the [POWER] tag. There's a thread related to this in the gameplay questions forum:
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=48034.0

hope that helps

[Mephansteras]

Hmmm, yeah, sounds like it's the Leader of a Civ showing up. bhamv, could you check the legends for that Mephansteras and see if he was leading a Civ?