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[Twiggie]

I don't have an opinion one way or the other, so, I've got nothing to say.

I'm talking Archangel levels of lurking here.

OK. I think I should just stay away from this subsection once this game is over. I'm just not talkative enough. I don't have anything to say so I don't post, which tends to mean that I don't have anything to say.

i would comment on how unhelpful you're being, but that wouldnt be helpful.

[EchoP]

OK. I think I should just stay away from this subsection once this game is over. I'm just not talkative enough. I don't have anything to say so I don't post, which tends to mean that I don't have anything to say.

Nah, you just need practice. Don't leave because of one experience.

i would comment on how unhelpful you're being, but that wouldnt be helpful.

That was a really unhelpful thing to say.
Also, Can you post your suspicions so far.

[Archangel]

OK. I think I should just stay away from this subsection once this game is over. I'm just not talkative enough. I don't have anything to say so I don't post, which tends to mean that I don't have anything to say.

Nah, you just need practice. Don't leave because of one experience.

I've been in most of the paranormal mafias though, and I think I was about as useful in those as I've been in this.

[webadict]

I don't know. Are you inferring that I am the last scum, or are you asking for my suspicions?

That depends on how you answer my question, now doesn't it?

[Cheeetar]

Uh, no. What your question means does not depend on how I answer it. What I take your question to mean depends on how I answer it, but you already had a question in mind when you asked it. What was this question?

[webadict]

Uh, no. What your question means does not depend on how I answer it. What I take your question to mean depends on how I answer it, but you already had a question in mind when you asked it. What was this question?

I already said the question. What's inferred is how one interprets it. Obviously, you think I think you're the last scum, which is a pretty blatant thing to decipher, considering the context. Especially with the way you answered it. Which is that you didn't. Perhaps because you don't know who looks suspicious, because you are indeed the last scum.

Maybe you should answer the question with something other than:

I don't know. Are you inferring that I am the last scum, or are you asking for my suspicions?

Because obviously, a question like:

Also, Cheeetar, would you mind telling me who's the last scum?

Means that if you were going to answer my question with a real name, or even a list of suspicions, instead of an "I don't know," you might be doing something besides active lurking.

[Cheeetar]

At the moment I am suspicious of Inaluct. He's been lurking, and when A_Fey_Dwarf called him out on his he voted for Twiggie, either because he could bandwagon on it (he admitted this with 'I'll go along with the vote for twiggie') or because Twiggie was lurking. Which dosen't make sense, because Inaluct was also lurking.

However, I don't know who the last scum is.

[webadict]

At the moment I am suspicious of Inaluct. He's been lurking, and when A_Fey_Dwarf called him out on his he voted for Twiggie, either because he could bandwagon on it (he admitted this with 'I'll go along with the vote for twiggie') or because Twiggie was lurking. Which dosen't make sense, because Inaluct was also lurking.

However, I don't know who the last scum is.

I suppose one would not KNOW. Bad wording on my part. You make a valid point, though, as inaluct does seem rather suspicious. However, I feel that Twiggie is a big lurker pants and needs to die. However, I must unvote for now.

But, if you go back, you'll see Mr.Person is very suspicious. I'll do a proper analysis in a bit, as I need to bring up a couple of posts from him.

[webadict]

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Vote Rysith for pulling up BS to vote for Alexhans. You don't vote in mafia based on skill, never.

The classic vote for your teammate tactic. Well, almost. He was confused, you see...

... I'll random vote for EchoP, though. He hasn't posted yet, and getting everyone to speak up a bit is good, especially the new players. ...

Vote Servant Corps, again for not posting.

Vote Rysith for pulling up BS to vote for Alexhans. You don't vote in mafia based on skill, never.

me == confused

Oh sorry, You're right, I meant to vote chaoticjosh

It only took a Dopp and a Cultist to remind him.

You say that like it's common knowledge Mr.Person. Please, share with us, what is the basis behind NEVER voting for someone based on skill?

I thought this post was relevant to the first one. He has a point, although a very small one. You CAN indeed vote for someone based on mafia skill, though in a different way than chaoitcjosh was saying.

So wait, you're attacking me for attacking Alexhans, but not attacking Alexhans who's attacking ToonyMan for exactly the same reason? Does that not seem hypocritical of you?

Did the fact that ToonyMan is singled out for his potential unusual playstyle and non-experience just pass right over you?

It's like you refuse to acknowledge that my reasoning is semi-sound, provided that we're in a metaphorical evidence vacuum.

Nevermind, I think Sir Josh is on to something here!  Not to sound like a follower, but that doesn't sound quite right Mr.Person!

To be fair, I was kinda kidding with the last one.

Anyways, I think lynching Alexhans because he's experienced would be bad because we don't know anything about anybody else. We may wind up lynching him, we may not, but we haven't learned much if we all agree to lynch Alexhans.

Also, you think he's dangerous as scum? How? Mastermind? I could say that about a lot of people. Hard to detect? Read the vibes of everybody else, if they're all town, Alex is scum. You're making it sound like if we don't lynch him he'll kill us all when that's laughably not true.

Jokes jokes jokes galore. You know who else made jokes that Day? Alexhans, JanusTwoface, Duke2.0... Toonyman, but that's him in a nutshell.

Webadict for exterminator with intel?

Notice how he avoids to call me something like Dopp or Cultist, which would indeed have a bit more relevant data on the subject. Do you really believe anyone as Exterminator would choose Intel?

In fact, if you notice, not a single Dopp OR Cultist has called me out as scum. Quite odd, indeed. In fact, I'm almost ALWAYS suspicious, as Pandarsenic, Beacon80, and a lot of other peoeple have said. Even Alexhans should've been suspicious of me... But he wasn't.

Knowing Alex, he would include as many scum-buddies as possible in his lists to try and bus them. Hehe.

Anyways, I actually have to agree with ToonyMan here. Unvote. 10-1 there's a lurking scum among us.

Funny. I don't remember ANY scum lurking. Do you?

Yes, I've been watching the game carefully here, but I haven't really seen anything too suspicious so far, so my votes staying on org. It seems like the scumhunting is a bit more frantic on this day 1 compared to other days, but I don't think a day 1 lynch is quite as useful as it used to be due to the multiple factions in the game.

Wow, that's really scummy there, I gotta say. You haven't seen anybody suspicious, yet you think Org is? You think a lynch with 8 scums (or more!) isn't useful? You've been lurking? Vote R1ck.

He was also voting Org, who had yet to post. He never said Org WAS suspicious, but that everybody was less suspicious. And he was making a general analysis.

This is gonna sound bad, but he could be an exterminator that took the Intel. I know, I keep saying "EXTERMINATOOOOORS!!!" but I'm just gonna say he's a surviver. In any case, he may wind up getting abducted, so I say we don't lynch Servant Corps.

This post makes less sense than anything ever. You say SC could be an Exterminator, but he's a Survivor. And that he's not a threat anyhow...

Sorry I've been gone for, oh shit, a few days, but my internet access got cut. It's fixed now, but sorry. I've reread the whole thing and, although I don't find EchoP very scummy, it's the best guess we have. Now, I say we double lynch. Why the hell would you not want to double lynch? It's a second kill for the town!

Also, we may in fact have a doctor and exterminator, why would the doctor claim? Claimed doc=Dead doc, remember. I wouldn't throw out the exterminator option just yet. To be fair, it does seem a tad remote, so if there's no third kill tonight, I doubt there's an exterminator. Also, I wouldn't throw out Servant Corps being a different alien than he claims.

ToonyMan and Alexhans both strike me as town. General demeanor and (what would be) tone. Webadict, you seem to have anger issues against lurkers, but have you ever considered that, maybe, just maybe, it's not intentional? They had every interest in playing the game but something got in their way? Perhaps, you know, real life? Not all of us can spend 24/7 sitting on a message board, analyzing everything, even if we wanted to. Just keep that in mind before going off on another rage, ok? It's a game, not SRS BSNS.

On the other hand, the intentional lurkers need to be lynched. Well, they need to be lynched if no better option is available. Perhaps we can double lynch a lurker and EchoP? Actually, what the heck, I'll vote SniHjen, going for the double lynch.

You certainly love double lynches, don't you?

Yeah, I wanted the double lynch anyways. Unvote, vote EchoP.

Veeeeery much...

We don't lynch Kashyyk. The scum will get him. Besides, if it gets really bad, we can double lynch him and somebody he says is scum. Now, we gotta find somebody ELSE to lynch. Unvote. FoS on everybody who jumped on the double lynch bandwagon, especially if you didn't even question the idea and said something like "Well, he's gonna get lynched, might as well jump on the double lynch wagon!"

...Whoa. Wait. Double lynching is bad now. He just FoS'd himself, by the way. He's got some sort of dramatic battle inside himself.

Fine, how about we lynch ToonyMan and SniHjen, then? Either way, you're demeanor is UNHELPFUL ToonyMan, so I vote ToonyMan.

Buuuut... Double lynching is GOOD NOW! As long as it's not a lynch for a Cultist, if you realize...

Actually, I have to say, I have no idea why the cultists would agree to ratting themselves out to anybody for any reason. Nothing makes sense. Alien survivor is already claimed, alien scientist is impossible, dopp hunter and agent seeker have no need to contact the cult, and the cult would never talk to a claimed exterminator. The cult would never tell the town anything. I think ToonyMan is a dopp, it's the only thing that makes sense.

Perhaps he thinks ToonyMan's a Dopp because Mr.Person is a Cultist... He doesn't really want to lynch a scum anyway, if you start noticing the pattern...

We need another vote on ToonyMan or EchoP alone will get lynched.

ToonyMan, you don't withhold info form the town. Period. Fess up EVERYTHING or we lynch you. Period.

Because they have to double lynch someone. How else will you hit Townies? That last part was to try and frame the Cultists, likely.

The name of the guy you contacted would be good. The specific roles of the cult would be good. ALL the PM's you got would be even better. Who did you say was scum again?

*sigh

If I post the PMs this game would be over too soon.  Plus anyway, if you kill me you don't get anymore info.  Hee hee.

Anyway, where in the rules does it say I can't ask scum for there roles?

It doesn't say that anywhere. It doesn't say the game has to be long either. Look, we're gonna lynch you and somebody else. If you come up scum, good, we've gotten a scum. If you come up town, great, we've gotten out scum. Win-win for town.

Funny. Watch as ToonyMan claims everything he knows and he STILL wants to lynch him. To FRAME THE LIST!

ALRIGHT FINE. MEPH, I request we stop the game. SniHjen cheated, lots of people are mad at ToonyMan, and we've won this game anyways

And I just cheated by editing this post. Nyah nyah.

And who wants to end the game?

@Rysith:
It's a bandwagon started by the cult.  It won't work though.

if it's true, I object to it on principle.

The two Cultists? My god! It's a freakin' pattern!

I'm a mafia game destroyer.   

I disagree, I think what you did was fine. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if your "Cult" buddy was the last dopp or something weirder. In any case, we should lynch ToonyMan and his "friend"

Here's the part where he undergoes a drastic turn! I thought the game was ruined? Also, not going to admit he's a Cultist, eh?

ALRIGHT FINE. MEPH, I request we stop the game. SniHjen cheated, lots of people are mad at ToonyMan, and we've won this game anyways

And I just cheated by editing this post. Nyah nyah.

Bah. I'd say "Restart the game if those are actually the cultists", but that would end up giving us information that we shouldn't have if the game doesn't restart. In that vein, I'll continue playing on the assumption that either ToonyMan/his source was lying (which seems true, since SniHjen flipped town) and the game can continue as normal, or that it will be no worse than round 5 with the ghost. I'd say that that's a very, very soft continue, though, since I wouldn't want to continue if even a significant minority of the players are dissatisfied.

I blame SniHjen, it would have been fine without him posting his role, even if we ended up with several false lynches because of it.

Fake edit edit:
And now I'm even more convinced that ToonyMan is scum, or crazy, or both. And Meph, you may want to wipe SniHjen's vote for ToonyMan, even if I'd like that help getting him lynched.

lolololololololololololol.

Unvote, vote Duke. Double lynch on Duke and ToonyMan is my idea. Thoughts?

Why double lynch? You really want ToonyMan gone, don't you? Seems that Cultist information must be bad for you...

Well, if ToonyMan says that, he's a moron you can be glad is dead. And anyways, it's looking pretty likely town is gonna win, barring some crazy shit, so you shouldn't fret a lynch that bad.

 The cult is still strong, and likely the doppelganger will survive if the town lynches me and Toony. I'm sure dieing to a lynch here would be a somewhat big deal, as we will have four deaths to deal with. Half of those will be town. So say this game is already set and that the death of a townsperson means nothing is reckless and prone to suspicion.

And HALF of those will be town? Why, that's 2 scum, dead! Care to try again?

You're a little tough on him, aren't you?

Well, if ToonyMan says that, he's a moron you can be glad is dead. And anyways, it's looking pretty likely town is gonna win, barring some crazy shit, so you shouldn't fret a lynch that bad.

 The cult is still strong, and likely the doppelganger will survive if the town lynches me and Toony. I'm sure dieing to a lynch here would be a somewhat big deal, as we will have four deaths to deal with. Half of those will be town. So say this game is already set and that the death of a townsperson means nothing is reckless and prone to suspicion.

And HALF of those will be town? Why, that's 2 scum, dead! Care to try again?

Half guaranteed to be town. The other two are the same chance as usual. Why do you look away from my message and go straight to grammatical errors?

Actually, that's what I was thinking as I read it. It didn't make sense, and it still doesn't, to be honest. Are you saying both you AND ToonyMan are town? I find that impossible. One of you 2 is lying, thus one of you 2 is scum. Pure and simple.

It should've seemed obvious here, but it wasn't. Also, way to take it lighter on him now... Even though he was lying so hardcore that you acknowledged he couldn't be right.

I really don't think Toonyman is scum. All the scum are either trying to be as out of the spotlight as possible or shining said spotlight. Revealing an alliance would put one squarely within it.

 As for me, there really is little one can say to prove their innocence other than "I'm not scum, honestly!" That is, other than cause the death of various scum. Even then such a person could be one of the 'freelance' scum.

 Or one could reveal their role pm... Oh wait...

Problem is, if ToonyMan is town, he isn't lying about what you said. If what you said is true, then you're a cultist. If what ToonyMan said isn't true, he's scum. Either way, we got a scum. Since I highly doubt ToonyMan would just flat out lie as town AND seems to be ok with a lynch on him and you, I think the double lynch is the perfect action here.

Obviously. Double lynching rocks, don't it?

If what ToonyMan said isn't true, he's scum.

I don't see how this works.

If what he said isn't true, he's lying. If he's lying, he's scum. Lynch all liars, since the town won't lie.

That wouldn't be playing to win. If he is indeed lying as town, I'll go ahead and request he gets banned from future Paranormal mafias, since that's just stupid. In any case, we get 1 scum and a townie or 2 townies, one of which is a complete moron. I see that as win-win for town.

Funny.

...

 Screw it. All for the Fish God and all that.

 The Lone Doppelganger out there, the Cult wishes to make a deal. We need your nightkill. Let us know who you are, and we will be sure to avoid killing you.

 For the Fish God!

Well, that makes it easy. Unvote. We're not lynching ToonyMan today. Who DO we lynch? EchoP? Somebody else?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Try voting for Duke and only lynching him, maybe?

...

 Screw it. All for the Fish God and all that.

 The Lone Doppelganger out there, the Cult wishes to make a deal. We need your nightkill. Let us know who you are, and we will be sure to avoid killing you.

 For the Fish God!

unvote

Vote Duke

Sorry for suspecting you, Toony. I think it's still somewhat questionable to have an out-of-game alliance with another player, but not making sure Duke was lynched at this point would be completely stupid. He's either scum or gone crazy.

Fake Edit: Mr.Person: Why not lynch Duke?

Yeah, why not?

In fact, why are the only people at the end Cultists?

Oh WOW! That's AWESOME! This leaves us with a single cultist to find. If anybody KNOWS they've found the last cultist, please, say so now.

This is called praising. It is a scum-tell. Especially those caps there.

Well, all I can do is FoS you for avoiding the vote on you, but you really didn't, so I can't do that.

And there's not a lot I can say here. Honestly, at this point, we might as well just random lynch for the rest of the game until somebody finds something. Honestly, I don't care much, since Hell will freeze over before the single cultist wins this game.

Obviously I want to find the cultist, but if we double lynch every day, we should catch the scum in short order without having to try.

Oooor, we could lynch you? Maybe try asking Kashyyk to do scan a particular person?

At this point, I think a full MC might be a good idea.

You're really trying now, aren't you? MCs are only called for when it's necessary. Finding the Doc ain't gonna help you now.

Yeah, full role claim. Not sure exactly what we can prove, but we might be able to pull a plan out somewhere.

You really want role information, don't you?

My only posts for several days were just to say I was seriously really ever gonna catch u-

Wait

We're only on Day 3?

Yeah. I think we had a day extension d2.

You think?

Also, nice joke with ToonyMan. Not like it was your fault he got lynched... Oh wait.

In any case, we should all claim our role to EchoP. He's clear.

You would know, wouldn't you?

Why him? Why not Kashyyk? As far as I can tell, we have just as much information about him.

Because while Kashyyk could potentially be Cult, EchoP cannot. Simply, there is no role he could be, apart from Exterminator, that could be hurtful to us. And I doubt he's an Exterminator.

Wait, EchoP is not clear and neither is kashyyk. If kashyyk were claiming to be an FBI agent while actually an alien with no actual investigative role, he could be making up these alignments of players just to clear himself. It is easy to fake an FBI agent, as you don't need to know anything about the players you say you are investigating. You can just say they are town, and even if they weren't, they wouldn't disagree with you anyway. This may be the case with EchoP, I suggest we hold off sending him role info just in case this is what has happened.
I agree that a lynch of lurkers would definitely be best in this situation, so I am voting for a inaluct lynch seeing as he hasn't posted much at all and voted to lynch twiggie for lurking which is exactly what he did.

The only alien that would pull that kind of thing would be an exterminator, and the lack of night kills would seem to suggest against that. Even still, I suppose you're correct. Until he pulls out an inspection that correctly tells an alien, we can't say anything for sure.

Now he's suddenly not cleared... Look at his earlier "Who should we lynch instead post?"

No, but Servant Corps puts a monkey wrench in that idea. There's no scientist, there's no dopp seeker (Of if there is one, he's already lost, so whatever), and if there is an agent seeker, it's Kashyyk. Survivor, maybe, but a survivor would have to be aware how easily the facade can be broken by a myriad of roles.

You just don't know what roles there are, do you?

It was Webadict that voted you, I think.

Stop thinking. You do this to make yourself look more active. Check out other posts by Janus and Rysith for confirmation.

I want Mr.Person gone. As much as I dislike lurkers, I dislike this the play style of Mr.Person more.

[Mr.Person]

Since I am far too lazy to go through the whole thing point by point, if you would lovingly pull out any parts you want me to comment on, I would gladly do so. In any case, I think you're way overthinking this a tad much. This is helpful info, though, so I can't really complain.

One part I did you see you say that I want a rebuttal against would be you attacking me for wanting a double lynch every night. Am I the only one who's done the math here? Suppose we double lynch every night and there are no kills other than the cult.

15 alive Day 3, -2 lynched
13 alive Night 3, -1 cult kill
12 alive Day4, -2 lynched
10 alive Night 4, -1 cult kill
9 alive Day 5, -2 lynched
7 alive Night 5, -1 cult kill
6 alive Day 6, -2 lynched
4 alive Night 6, -1 cult kill
3 alive Day 7, -1 lynched

That's 4 cult kills and 9 lynches. Now suppose we single lynch every night.

15 alive Day 3, -1 lynched
14 alive Night 3, -1 cult kill
13 alive Day 4, -1 lynched
12 alive Night 4, -1 cult kill
11 alive Day 5, -1 lynched
10 alive Night 5, -1 cult kill
9 alive Day 6, -1 lynched
8 alive Night 6, -1 cult kill
7 alive Day 7, -1 lynched
6 alive Night 7, -1 cult kill
5 alive Day 8, -1 lynched
4 alive Night 8, -1 cult kill
3 alive Day 9, -1 lynched

That's 6 cult kills and 7 lynches. By double lynching, we may be shortening the game by 2 nights, but we're also increasing our odds of getting scum with two extra lynches. Am I the only one who thinks that extra lynches are a good thing?

On lynching ToonyMan and Duke: I wanted them both gone because, surprise surprise, we had no way of knowing which one was scum! Sure, we could lynch one of them tonight and the other tomorrow if we lynched wrong, but I figured we could save ourselves the trouble, since the scum would of eventually killed ToonyMan anyways. Besides, they both claimed townie. It's not like we risked losing anybody important.

[Mephansteras]

The Whiteboard
Mr.Person : Servant Corps, webadict
Twiggie : inaluct
inaluct : A_Fey_Dwarf, Twiggie
No Lynch: Frelock


Reminder: Day 3 ends ~5pm Pacific Monday

[Servant Corps]

When we have 3 alive, that's LYLO. The town have to lynch correctly then, or fail badly.

So, we have 4 cult kills, and 8 lynches if we do a double lynch. If we do a single lynch, we have 6 cult kills, and 6 lynches.

But the main flaw is that as long as the Cultist is alive, he can redirect the lynches to target anyone other than him. In that case, a double lynch would be terrible indeed. And I don't want webadict to cause a fit again.

Mr.Person is more suspicious than inaluct, so my vote for Mr.Person stands.

[Mr.Person]

When we have 3 alive, that's LYLO. The town have to lynch correctly then, or fail badly.

So, we have 4 cult kills, and 8 lynches if we do a double lynch. If we do a single lynch, we have 6 cult kills, and 6 lynches.

But the main flaw is that as long as the Cultist is alive, he can redirect the lynches to target anyone other than him. In that case, a double lynch would be terrible indeed. And I don't want webadict to cause a fit again.

Mr.Person is more suspicious than inaluct, so my vote for Mr.Person stands.

Are you retarded? Yes, lynching can be redirected by the scum. Screw that though, you would rather... give the scum more kills that it alone chooses? You would, rather than have kills which CAN be directed at scum, use kill that CANNOT be directed at the scum? Great logic!

[webadict]

Just a quick question, then, Mr.Person:

Who would you like to see double lynched?

[Mr.Person]

I'm thinking Archangel and Beacon. I still want to get the lurkers off and conserve any roles that can clear for clearing the active players.

Actually, I think we should have everybody claim to whoever is going to get lynched tonight. From there, the 2 people getting lynched decide what everybody should do and who's clear, so we don't wind up with people doing stupid things accidentally. Does this sound good to everybody?