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Zironic

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Re: Vote for "Full Graphics Support"
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2009, 08:17:51 pm »
Toady needs to make it so we can disable gravity. When magma falls flow up is when you'll have your graphics!
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Re: Vote for "Full Graphics Support"
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2009, 08:37:59 pm »
I don't understand. What's the problem with the graphics as-is?
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Re: Vote for "Full Graphics Support"
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2009, 08:52:45 pm »
Most people are not capable of playing the game.
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Re: Vote for "Full Graphics Support"
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2009, 08:58:56 pm »
Quote from: diefortheswarm on July 21, 2009, 08:52:45 pm
Most people are not capable of playing the game.
Probably more a problem with their imaginations and the education system than with the game.
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Re: Vote for "Full Graphics Support"
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2009, 09:09:52 pm »
Quote from: Tilla on July 21, 2009, 08:58:56 pm
Quote from: diefortheswarm on July 21, 2009, 08:52:45 pm
Most people are not capable of playing the game.
Probably more a problem with their imaginations and the education system than with the game.
Oh the game is hard too, so should we make is easier by removing sieges, enemies, starvation, hunger, and...

You know what they can just go play blockland.
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Re: Vote for "Full Graphics Support"
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2009, 09:11:29 pm »
No, no no no NO!

Get out, stay out, and never come back.

We don't have multithreading, we don't have half the features implemented, and some of us LIKE ascii!

And please, on the way out... Remember; don't beg for votes.

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Re: Vote for "Full Graphics Support"
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2009, 09:15:29 pm »
Come on now.  I want people to play my game.  When you guys get all exclusive, it's bad for me.
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Re: Vote for "Full Graphics Support"
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2009, 09:18:04 pm »
Damnit, double ninja'd and by Toady no less.

Quote from: Zironic on July 21, 2009, 09:09:52 pm
Quote from: Tilla on July 21, 2009, 08:58:56 pm
Quote from: diefortheswarm on July 21, 2009, 08:52:45 pm
Most people are not capable of playing the game.
Probably more a problem with their imaginations and the education system than with the game.
Oh the game is hard too, so should we make is easier by removing sieges, enemies, starvation, hunger, and...

You know what they can just go play blockland.

Anyway, not liking ascii ≠ being too stupid to playing the game. I don't know where that came from.

I also don't know know why someone would think they're incapable of playing an ascii game but...whatever.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2009, 09:28:37 pm by kinseti »
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Re: Vote for "Full Graphics Support"
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2009, 09:20:42 pm »
Quote from: Toady One on July 21, 2009, 09:15:29 pm
Come on now.  I want people to play my game.  When you guys get all exclusive, it's bad for me.

I'm saying wait for multi-threading. If you want some truely neck-bearded introverted exclusives, check the /tg/ board on 4chan.

Quote from: kinseti on July 21, 2009, 09:18:04 pm
Damnit, double ninja'd and by Toady no less.

Quote from: Zironic on July 21, 2009, 09:09:52 pm
Quote from: Tilla on July 21, 2009, 08:58:56 pm
Quote from: diefortheswarm on July 21, 2009, 08:52:45 pm
Most people are not capable of playing the game.
Probably more a problem with their imaginations and the education system than with the game.
Oh the game is hard too, so should we make is easier by removing sieges, enemies, starvation, hunger, and...

You know what they can just go play blockland.

Anyway, not liking ascii ≠ being to stupid to playing the game. I don't know where that came from.

I also don't know know why someone would think they're incapable of playing an ascii game but...whatever.

This, a thousand times this.
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Re: Vote for "Full Graphics Support"
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2009, 09:24:41 pm »
Quote from: Toady One on July 21, 2009, 09:15:29 pm
Come on now.  I want people to play my game.  When you guys get all exclusive, it's bad for me.

The Great One has spoken.

I dunno about you guys, but the ability to CHOOSE graphics over ascii doesn't seem like a sword to ascii's kneck.
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Re: Vote for "Full Graphics Support"
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2009, 09:27:04 pm »
Wait, I thought 'Full Graphics Support' just means extending the creature graphics system to cover everything.
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Re: Vote for "Full Graphics Support"
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2009, 09:32:40 pm »
If not for the current graphics support, I'd probably never have gotten into DF.  And even though I'm now capable of enjoying the game with bare ASCII, I can't wait for full tile graphics.

However, one of the top 10 entries has been made obsolete and will be removed, meaning that #11 will move into #10 and probably stay there.

It'll probably get Toady's consideration either way, since it's one of the older unimplemented Core items and is the kind of feature that's very likely (possibly more than any other) to draw in new players.

Quote from: Im_Sparks on July 21, 2009, 09:20:42 pm
I'm saying wait for multi-threading.

Multi-threading is not the magic bullet you're hoping for.  It's difficult to implement, especially retroactively, especially for someone with no experience, and the performance gains are likely to be unimpressive.

Graphics support will also not be a significant performance drag.  Rendering is no longer a bottleneck and graphical tiles won't ever take up much memory, especially with the new PNG support.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2009, 09:38:55 pm by Footkerchief »
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Re: Vote for "Full Graphics Support"
« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2009, 09:40:30 pm »
If anything, I want my priests, blessings, sacrifices and MAGIC.

Wizards are cool. Not the high fantasy ones, the ones like from the poem "The Wizard".

Rare, maybe one per fortress, and 2 priests and one high priest per fort. Random entry conditions, demands live creatures and gems. Engravings and paper(Once it's in).

I want a wizards' tower. Badly.
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Well treat me like the disease like the rats and the fleas, A-ha-ha! A-ha-ha!
Well treat me like the sea oh so salty and mean, A-ha-ha! A-ha-ha!
Let's shake hands if you want but soon both hands are gone, A-ha-ha!
Cut me down like a tree like the lumber or weeds, well discard who you please like the leaves off a tree. Drag me out of the sea and then teach me to breath. Give me forced health till I wish death on myself. Ah! Ha! Ha!
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Re: Vote for "Full Graphics Support"
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2009, 09:45:03 pm »
As of right now, magic is a post-v1.0 feature (except for artifact magic, which should come sooner).  It's much more sensible and realistic to ask that graphics be prioritized, since it's a v1.0 Core item.
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Re: Vote for "Full Graphics Support"
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2009, 10:02:12 pm »
Quote from: Footkerchief on July 21, 2009, 09:45:03 pm
As of right now, magic is a post-v1.0 feature (except for artifact magic, which should come sooner).  It's much more sensible and realistic to ask that graphics be prioritized, since it's a v1.0 Core item.

Your point is valid, but in which direction will the graphics GO in?
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Well treat me like the disease like the rats and the fleas, A-ha-ha! A-ha-ha!
Well treat me like the sea oh so salty and mean, A-ha-ha! A-ha-ha!
Let's shake hands if you want but soon both hands are gone, A-ha-ha!
Cut me down like a tree like the lumber or weeds, well discard who you please like the leaves off a tree. Drag me out of the sea and then teach me to breath. Give me forced health till I wish death on myself. Ah! Ha! Ha!
March on! March on! March on! March on! MARCH ON!
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