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[Shad0wyone]

My current project is a massive tank of magma supported above my map, 15z levels or so of magma, so I might add a nice vault somewhere that requires deconstruction of the tank support to get to it. I need to finish this project...

[thepuska]

The safest vault a dwarf can build:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

A glass tower

A tower spanning from the bottommost Z-level to the highest. Each story would have all sides except one corner covered in glass windows (the corner would be a wall supporting the above level). Inside the tower there would be only one tile room per story and that'd contain a cage with a goblin. The treasure would be on the second-highest level.

Pull a lever to release the caged goblins once you've built the tower.

After that, no dwarf could get to the treasure. Civilians would be too terrified of the goblins looking through the windows to go near it and military dwarves couldn't attack the goblins or destroy the windows.

I only came up with only three impossibly difficult ways to get the treasure:
1. Waiting until the goblins die of old age. Which they don't, because they have no maxage. But if one used other monsters to guard the tower, they could die of old age.
2. Rigging an accident to cause one of your dwarves to lose both his eyes and then keeping him alive. He wouldn't see the goblins inside the tower and could tear down the windows and build bridges around the tower.
3. Caging a really tough flying [BUILDINGDESTROYER] and then releasing it near the tower. But then you'd have another problem: a flying buildingdestroyer that just killed some 30 goblins.

But there's no fun in a vault like that.

[kurisukun]

The safest vault a dwarf can build:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

A glass tower

A tower spanning from the bottommost Z-level to the highest. Each story would have all sides except one corner covered in glass windows (the corner would be a wall supporting the above level). Inside the tower there would be only one tile room per story and that'd contain a cage with a goblin. The treasure would be on the second-highest level.

Pull a lever to release the caged goblins once you've built the tower.

After that, no dwarf could get to the treasure. Civilians would be too terrified of the goblins looking through the windows to go near it and military dwarves couldn't attack the goblins or destroy the windows.

I only came up with only three impossibly difficult ways to get the treasure:
1. Waiting until the goblins die of old age. Which they don't, because they have no maxage. But if one used other monsters to guard the tower, they could die of old age.
2. Rigging an accident to cause one of your dwarves to lose both his eyes and then keeping him alive. He wouldn't see the goblins inside the tower and could tear down the windows and build bridges around the tower.
3. Caging a really tough flying [BUILDINGDESTROYER] and then releasing it near the tower. But then you'd have another problem: a flying buildingdestroyer that just killed some 30 goblins.

But there's no fun in a vault like that.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

 Flood it with magma/Water to create obsidian.  This blocks the view of enough tiles to let the dwarves get close to the tower on the level with the treasure, which has no goblin, and gain entry.

[sweitx]

The safest vault a dwarf can build:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

A glass tower

A tower spanning from the bottommost Z-level to the highest. Each story would have all sides except one corner covered in glass windows (the corner would be a wall supporting the above level). Inside the tower there would be only one tile room per story and that'd contain a cage with a goblin. The treasure would be on the second-highest level.

Pull a lever to release the caged goblins once you've built the tower.

After that, no dwarf could get to the treasure. Civilians would be too terrified of the goblins looking through the windows to go near it and military dwarves couldn't attack the goblins or destroy the windows.

I only came up with only three impossibly difficult ways to get the treasure:
1. Waiting until the goblins die of old age. Which they don't, because they have no maxage. But if one used other monsters to guard the tower, they could die of old age.
2. Rigging an accident to cause one of your dwarves to lose both his eyes and then keeping him alive. He wouldn't see the goblins inside the tower and could tear down the windows and build bridges around the tower.
3. Caging a really tough flying [BUILDINGDESTROYER] and then releasing it near the tower. But then you'd have another problem: a flying buildingdestroyer that just killed some 30 goblins.

But there's no fun in a vault like that.

Dig below, use ramp to isolate the tower from surrounding rock.  Collapse tower.

[Quietust]

The safest vault a dwarf can build:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

A glass tower

A tower spanning from the bottommost Z-level to the highest. Each story would have all sides except one corner covered in glass windows (the corner would be a wall supporting the above level). Inside the tower there would be only one tile room per story and that'd contain a cage with a goblin. The treasure would be on the second-highest level.

Pull a lever to release the caged goblins once you've built the tower.

After that, no dwarf could get to the treasure. Civilians would be too terrified of the goblins looking through the windows to go near it and military dwarves couldn't attack the goblins or destroy the windows.

I only came up with only three impossibly difficult ways to get the treasure:
1. Waiting until the goblins die of old age. Which they don't, because they have no maxage. But if one used other monsters to guard the tower, they could die of old age.
2. Rigging an accident to cause one of your dwarves to lose both his eyes and then keeping him alive. He wouldn't see the goblins inside the tower and could tear down the windows and build bridges around the tower.
3. Caging a really tough flying [BUILDINGDESTROYER] and then releasing it near the tower. But then you'd have another problem: a flying buildingdestroyer that just killed some 30 goblins.

But there's no fun in a vault like that.

Dig below, use ramp to isolate the tower from surrounding rock.  Collapse tower.

The tower would have been built to the bottommost Z-level, so it'd be impossible to dig underneath it.

[thepuska]

The safest vault a dwarf can build:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

A glass tower

A tower spanning from the bottommost Z-level to the highest. Each story would have all sides except one corner covered in glass windows (the corner would be a wall supporting the above level). Inside the tower there would be only one tile room per story and that'd contain a cage with a goblin. The treasure would be on the second-highest level.

Pull a lever to release the caged goblins once you've built the tower.

After that, no dwarf could get to the treasure. Civilians would be too terrified of the goblins looking through the windows to go near it and military dwarves couldn't attack the goblins or destroy the windows.

I only came up with only three impossibly difficult ways to get the treasure:
1. Waiting until the goblins die of old age. Which they don't, because they have no maxage. But if one used other monsters to guard the tower, they could die of old age.
2. Rigging an accident to cause one of your dwarves to lose both his eyes and then keeping him alive. He wouldn't see the goblins inside the tower and could tear down the windows and build bridges around the tower.
3. Caging a really tough flying [BUILDINGDESTROYER] and then releasing it near the tower. But then you'd have another problem: a flying buildingdestroyer that just killed some 30 goblins.

But there's no fun in a vault like that.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

 Flood it with magma/Water to create obsidian.  This blocks the view of enough tiles to let the dwarves get close to the tower on the level with the treasure, which has no goblin, and gain entry.

I suppose that could work too if you had enough magma.

[Rowanas]

slaughter all the goblins. just send out brave soldier dwarves. It would be like a rite of passage. Eventually they would all be wiped out and you can just climb up and retrieve it.

you would have to temporarily block off the view with obsidian though...

[Quietust]

slaughter all the goblins. just send out brave soldier dwarves. It would be like a rite of passage. Eventually they would all be wiped out and you can just climb up and retrieve it.

As he stated, military dwarves wouldn't be able to get through the windows, and civilians would be too scared to deconstruct them (unless they were blind).

[Rowanas]

that's why the blind deconstructor is necessary. he builds doors for the military dwarves.

[thepuska]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The tower could also be extended so that each level has two tiles of space. The topmost level would have a cast obsidian wall right above the treasure, preventing the tower from being collapsed (the treasure would be crushed if the tower was collapsed). It would also leave room for a goblin on the same level as the treasure, making it a little more difficult to attack even with obsidian.

Otherwise it'd also be possible to just fill the bottom level with obsidian and then mine under it.

[kurisukun]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The tower could also be extended so that each level has two tiles of space. The topmost level would have a cast obsidian wall right above the treasure, preventing the tower from being collapsed (the treasure would be crushed if the tower was collapsed). It would also leave room for a goblin on the same level as the treasure, making it a little more difficult to attack even with obsidian.

Otherwise it'd also be possible to just fill the bottom level with obsidian and then mine under it.

Does Cave-in dust go through windows?  I seem to recall it does.  And it can be lethal if you pile on enough of it.  I've killed miners who weren't crushed by the intial collapse like that before on accident.

[thepuska]

You most likely couldn't get close enough to rig a collapse that'd reach the tower.

[Shakma]

I think you could probably still sneak in from the corner and fortify the level above and below so when you then opened the corner you wouldn't cause a collapse.  You can't support just from a corner so you'd need a corner and a wall anyway.  I think you could sneak in without getting line of sight to the gob. 

[Dakira]

I'm looking forward to the vaults that are going with a "Full Deconstruction" challenge. I've been thinking about how I'd do that one myself, but I wont reveal my secrets failures.

[jsnlxndrlv]

I'm kind of curious how you'd even build the glass tower defense. Setting that one up sounds like almost more of a challenge than breaking in.