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[Graven]

I'm currently training my army. I have 8 military dwarves, all legendary wrestlers/shield users, 6 of them legendary hammerdwarves, 2 legendary axedwarves. The reason for this is that I read that crossbowdwarves use hammer skill to fight in close quarters, and decided to up their chances if such a thing would occur. Thing is, they absolutely refuse to go to the archery range I've set up. They just stand in the barracks, crossbows in hand, helplessly watching their axe-wielding brethren spar the hell out of each other.

Can a dwarf only have a single legendary weapon skill?

[Jim Groovester]

Standard questions:

Do you have each archery target set as its own room?
Are your marksdwarves carrying any odd clothing or armor items in their hands?
Do you have wooden or bone crossbow bolts for them to train with?

[Graven]

... well I'll be damned.

They ALL have. Impossibly stupid things like tattered shoes, iron caps, leather armors. And are carrying the crossbow and shield in their right hands. And I can't get them to put the things down! I guess the reason I didn't think of this is because they'd all spar with melee weapons, so I assumed they were unencumbered.

... help?

edit : I think I can solve this with some creative communism - i.e. distributing their armor and weapons equally among the piles, and rearming them from scratch. Hopefully they won't get the insupressable desire to hold ten rotten leather shoes in one hand, and a number of weapons in the other.

reedit : Yep, solved it. Thanks a lot, I doubt I've remembered about dwarves and hands.

[Rowanas]

similar to this, I want to cross-train my dwarves for awesmeness, so I made all my recruits wrestlers until they reach elite, and then I swap out their unarmed attack for crossbows. they keep wrestling, and none of them will do any markswarfery.

[Foxbyte]

similar to this, I want to cross-train my dwarves for awesmeness, so I made all my recruits wrestlers until they reach elite, and then I swap out their unarmed attack for crossbows. they keep wrestling, and none of them will do any markswarfery.

I believe once a dwarf gets too high in a certain weapon skill they will refuse to switch to another, lesser art of violence.

[Slogo]

That's not true. I've had champion wrestlers pick up a crossbow, beat each other with it until I got them to drop the object in their hand (I waited a bit since I wanted them to have hammerdwarf skills anyways), then trained them up on crossbows.


If you need to get them to drop their useless crap set them to no armor/no-shield when they're training for crossbows. Once they start training you can tell them to pick up the gear again if you want. The reason for the extra crap in their hands is because they were wrestling.

[Lummox JR]

Someone recently suggested a simple solution to the busy hands phenomenon: Find the extra item (which can also be a third gauntlet, so harder to spot) and set it to dump. Someone will come by and literally take it off the dwarf's hands, at which point it's no longer a problem.

[assimilateur]

Someone recently suggested a simple solution to the busy hands phenomenon: Find the extra item (which can also be a third gauntlet, so harder to spot) and set it to dump. Someone will come by and literally take it off the dwarf's hands, at which point it's no longer a problem.

Sounds like even more of a hassle than the usual switching to no armor and back to armor, but whatever floats your boat, mate.

[(name here)]

Turning off armor works for that? Are they wearing the armor as gloves?

[Graven]

Well, setting them to clothes level makes them drop everything of a higher level, and in the case of "Ingish Bodyarmorgloves" worked, but the guy wearing 3 shoes on his left arms had to have them dumped.

Oh an unrelated notice, 2 of the wannabe marksman STILL refuse to train, but I don't know if they're just stubborn, or having bolts and shield in one hand somehow prevents that.

[Andir]

Something I have not tried... can you put a chest in their room so that they will put the item in it instead of carrying it around?

[Graven]

Hm... haven't tried it... but don't military dwarves throw nearly everything they own on the barracks' floor? And if not, what's with all the stuff lying there?

[Porpoisepower]

I love legendary macedwarves, a recent ambush included an elite bow Goblin.  my macedwarve smacked it clean accross the map and into a brick wall it's head and both arms exploded off @ impact.

[milaga]

As much as I can tell they need their own bedroom with a cabinet in order to store all of their clothing. They don't pick up after themselves if they are on duty. Even if they are off duty they won't tidy the barracks if there's someone to spar with or an archery range to practice at. Fortress guard don't like to pick up after themselves, and I think it's dwarven tradition to let bits of clothing torn off in a wrestling match to lie where they fell.

Again, this is just my observation. I have noticed that if I don't train anyone as a wrestler, don't give my fortress guard armor and make sure the rest of my army has their own bedrooms with a cabinet and coffer that the fortress has been surprisingly clean.

[Hyndis]

Turn off armor. Shields are fine, but if you turn off armor even if they pull armor off another dwarf while wrestling, they will not hang onto the armor. They'll just drop it right away, so the only things they should be carrying are a bow, a quiver, arrows, and a shield/buckler.