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[BossChase]

Does it make any difference if you don't engrave under the furniture?

[smjjames]

Every engraving counts. So it's up to you whether you want to engrave under furniture. It can be for aescetic reasons or you want to limit the room quality.

As said before, every engraving in the room counts, so if you don't engrave under furniture, it's the same as not engraving any other floor tile.

[Masennus]

Doesn't placing the furniture destroy the engraving? I thought it did. I could be wrong.

[Samus1111111]

no, you can have engravings under furniture. Heck, you can even engrave under furniture that has already been built 

Urist McEngraver: Hey come help me move this thing
Urist McMover: Ok, what should I do
Urist McEngraver: Just pick it up and hold it so I can engrave under it
*Urist McMover picks up the bed*
Urist McMover: (pant) this thing is heavy (pant)
Urist McEngraver: Just a little longer
*WHUMP*
Urist McMover: whoops......

[zooeyglass]

no, you can have engravings under furniture. Heck, you can even engrave under furniture that has already been built 

Urist McEngraver: Hey come help me move this thing
Urist McMover: Ok, what should I do
Urist McEngraver: Just pick it up and hold it so I can engrave under it
*Urist McMover picks up the bed*
Urist McMover: (pant) this thing is heavy (pant)
Urist McEngraver: Just a little longer
*WHUMP*
Urist McMover: whoops......

This is a superior engraving by Urist McEngraver. In the image are dwarves and Urist McEngraver. The dwarves are laughing. Urist McEngraver is being crushed by furniture.

[AlienChickenPie]

The sofa is striking a menacing pose.
Urist McMover is making a plaintive gesture.

[assimilateur]

Doesn't placing the furniture destroy the engraving? I thought it did. I could be wrong.

Floors and walls are what destroys engravings; furniture, not so much.

[Jim Groovester]

There are some buildings that remove engravings, though, like floodgates.

[assimilateur]

There are some buildings that remove engravings, though, like floodgates.

You sure? Because I'm almost positive that I've got a couple of floodgates placed over engraved floors in my dining room. I can't make sure right now though, as I'm not at my regular 'puter.

Way I remember it, I wasn't able to engrave anything on a tile that's occupied by a floodgate, even if said floodgate was open. What I did was engrave the floor and then placed any floodgates.

[Jim Groovester]

There are some buildings that remove engravings, though, like floodgates.

You sure? Because I'm almost positive that I've got a couple of floodgates placed over engraved floors in my dining room. I can't make sure right now though, as I'm not at my regular 'puter.

I'm fairly certain they do, because I remember the 'Your careless builders have destroyed a masterwork of Estrur Ethrambur!' messages. In either case, it would be trivial for either of us to double check.

EDIT: Okay, I just checked. Floodgates don't remove engravings.

[Albedo]

Does it make any difference if you don't engrave under the furniture?

Think of a room as a square (or so) - anything and everything emplaced in that square adds up to the total value.  Floors, walls, all furniture, traps, mechanisms - if it's placed (rather than just lying around loose), it adds.  If you take a rope, and decorate that rope with diamonds, and then place it as a restraint in the room - it adds its value to the room's value.

Engraving on the inside add, but not the outside.  A wall, engraved on both sides, that's completely internal to a room would add both sides of the engraving.

(I'm blanking - do doors need to be set to "internal" to add their value?)

[assimilateur]

A wall engraved on both sides? Afraid that's not possible, unless you meant a wall that's 2 tiles thick.

Regarding internal vs external doors, I've had a floodgate on the outside of a room not add to its value, so I'm guessing external doors work similarly.

[Albedo]

Oh? Never tried it, but I thought it had been confirmed that the below setup was worth more (because of multiple surfaces being exposed/engraved) than a floor alone being engraved (with only 1 surface)

xxxxxx
x  x  x
xx  xx
x     x
xx  xx
x  x  x
xxxxxx

I can't claim that I've built two otherwise identical rooms and compared the final created wealth, but I thought someone had and it was accepted.  If I've got it wrong, my bad.

[Jim Groovester]

Yep, engravings on walls have sidedness. After months of not believing it, I tried it out myself and confirmed it.

[Albedo]

<nods>

You'd think that "engraving a tile" is engraving a tile is engraving a tile, 1 designated tile is 1 tile, whether floor or wall - but apparently not so.

(Phew!  Thought so.)