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Jack_Bread

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Re: Delete the non-B12 forums
« Reply #105 on: July 08, 2009, 06:38:29 am »

You mean "Finally..."
Unless something's going on in the DF section...

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Re: Delete the non-B12 forums
« Reply #106 on: July 08, 2009, 06:40:27 am »

I hate how I joined right before THE WHOLE FORUM WENT TO HELL.

Hopefully we'll live through it. I've got stuff going on on this forum. This forum was the first I ever joined and the most I ever post on. Frankly, this forum rules and I hope to see it continue.
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Re: Delete the non-B12 forums
« Reply #107 on: July 08, 2009, 07:11:39 am »

Hmm, having joined after the demise of VN, I can't say I'm too attached to it.  Some of the things in there are amusing, but some are plain disturbing, and I'd understand completely if Toady wants to distance himself from that.  I don't think I should comment on individual users, but most seem sorry for what they've done, so I guess if it doesn't happen again there shouldn't be a need to ban anyone.

I'm not sure about having player moderators though, it's probably not a good idea.  It can be isolating to be a player mod, and can cause problems.  Ah well, handle it how you will.
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Re: Delete the non-B12 forums
« Reply #108 on: July 08, 2009, 08:04:56 am »

Only noticed the VN forums after I went to look where the damn penguins came from... and they came from hell!
Soon after it got closed down.
Didn't give a damn about it: very few interesting threads.

I like the GD forum though.
Here you can get to know some of the baywatchers when nothing interesting is happening in the DF-related forums.
Discuss things that you care about personally, shared interests, etc. Without polluting the DF with DF unrelated stuff.

Threads about crap, or flamefests, I feel could be deleted as soon as nobody posts on it for a week or so, but that may require active moderating on content.
Automatic deletion of old threads is an option for some subfora, as necromancy is generally frowned upon anyhow.

I'm absolutely not in favour of more liberate banning and deleting. I've seen it happen on other forums and it does not increase forum health.
Banning is a very final solution and not even effective, as offenders are more than able to create a new account and continue their destructive habits.
Rather a temporary lockout would be an option for misbehaving lots.
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Re: Delete the non-B12 forums
« Reply #109 on: July 08, 2009, 08:41:47 am »

Emm...

I'm sorry, guys, for my actions.
Yeah, some of it maybe a /bit/ borderline.

I'll /try/ to stop.
Still, I wasn't even doing anything... :P ?

Well, except trying to roleplay as Remilia. But that, eh. To that I have no answer.

((Also, sorry for being foreign, crazy, different faith, and homo-phobic <- I hate humans))

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Re: Delete the non-B12 forums
« Reply #110 on: July 08, 2009, 09:16:50 am »

Just posting to cast my vote for a mod team that hands out bans like apples laced with rat poison on halloween
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Re: Delete the non-B12 forums
« Reply #111 on: July 08, 2009, 09:18:20 am »

Just posting to cast my vote for a mod team that hands out bans like apples laced with rat poison on halloween
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Re: Delete the non-B12 forums
« Reply #112 on: July 08, 2009, 09:23:04 am »

Really, one should only do reversible things, mutes rather than bans, (a year long mute is basically a ban anyway, and lets it be undone if there has been a mistake) locking and hiding rather than deleting. If such things are absolutely necessary.
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Re: Delete the non-B12 forums
« Reply #113 on: July 08, 2009, 10:05:02 am »

Well, VN could just be put into cold storage (a forum which noone other than mods can see) rather than be deleted.  Happens on most forums.
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Re: Delete the non-B12 forums
« Reply #114 on: July 08, 2009, 10:07:48 am »

Really, one should only do reversible things, mutes rather than bans, (a year long mute is basically a ban anyway, and lets it be undone if there has been a mistake) locking and hiding rather than deleting. If such things are absolutely necessary.
Nah, I'd be cool with paid membership and off-the-cuff bans. Donation = membership until you screw it up, then you need to donate again
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Re: Delete the non-B12 forums
« Reply #115 on: July 08, 2009, 10:12:41 am »

The rate of suggestions would slow to a crawl. at first I only joined to suggest wheels.
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Re: Delete the non-B12 forums
« Reply #116 on: July 08, 2009, 12:27:42 pm »

Really, one should only do reversible things, mutes rather than bans, (a year long mute is basically a ban anyway, and lets it be undone if there has been a mistake) locking and hiding rather than deleting. If such things are absolutely necessary.
Nah, I'd be cool with paid membership and off-the-cuff bans. Donation = membership until you screw it up, then you need to donate again

So its pay to make things good?  Doesn't sound like a good policy in my opinion.
I can see people seeing it like that...
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Re: Delete the non-B12 forums
« Reply #117 on: July 08, 2009, 12:41:49 pm »

Really, one should only do reversible things, mutes rather than bans, (a year long mute is basically a ban anyway, and lets it be undone if there has been a mistake) locking and hiding rather than deleting. If such things are absolutely necessary.
Nah, I'd be cool with paid membership and off-the-cuff bans. Donation = membership until you screw it up, then you need to donate again

So its pay to make things good?  Doesn't sound like a good policy in my opinion.
I can see people seeing it like that...
No, it's not like that - if people pay a token sum for something, they value it more. Rule-breaking decreases substantially once people suffer financially (even if it's a token sum) for it.
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Re: Delete the non-B12 forums
« Reply #118 on: July 08, 2009, 01:02:52 pm »

That will seriously hurt donations though.  You aren't likely to pay donations for something which already charges a subscription at any cost.
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Re: Delete the non-B12 forums
« Reply #119 on: July 08, 2009, 01:07:10 pm »

Yeah let's not do the SA model.  Ever.  In my experience, instead of giving people something at stake, it just gives them a sense of entitlement--the moderation would have to be seriously hardcore to deal with that.

As for banning proxies--just remember that, to a server, a proxy looks EXACTLY like just a different computer connecting to the server.  There's no useful way to tell if someone is using a proxy, unless you really want to start playing with slightly cutting edge physical-computer-identification techniques...which you don't.
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