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[durt101]

I want to get a legendary dining hall.
How much value does a 21 X 11 area need to be legendary? Is there a formula for this? Can I find a chart of all previous ranks/values too?
how much value does smoothing the floor/walls give?

[Jim Groovester]

There's lots of good info on the wiki page for Room.

It's fairly easy to get a legendary dining room? Just engrave every inch of what you have with a legendary engraver. It will be legendary shortly.

[smjjames]

Actually, I can get that with a big room, lots of chairs and tables, and then smooth and engrave. I actually use the dining room to train up my masons in engraving. At least one generally ends up bieng highly skilled by the time it's done.

You can have alot of low to medium quality tables and chairs (rock thrones really), but it all adds up.

[Kidiri]

It's fairly easy to get a legendary dining room? Just engrave every inch of what you have with a legendary engraver. It will be legendary shortly.

And if you're not satisfied with the result, you can construct a wall on top of any non-masterpiece engraving, and engrave those again. Continue until everything is a masterpiece. Combine this with masterpiece furniture, and you've got yourself the equivalent of a shot of cocaine. Do note, however, that walls cannot be manipulated this way. And constructed walls cannot be engraved. If you also want all of your walls to be masterpieces, savescum until you've got the desired effect.

[Skorpion]

I just dig out a big space, cram any old furniture in there, and then slap down some artifact furniture.

[buzz killington]

Two gem-encrusted pieces of platinum furniture is usually enough to turn most anything legendary, if the walls are at least smoothed / partially engraved 

[Blargityblarg]

I take a 7X7 room, fill it with ten each of chairs and tables, and five gear assemblies, smooth the whole lot. That usually gets me up to 'Great'. After that, I either engrave or artifact it up for Royal.

[Albedo]

I found a vein of platinum in some magnetite.  A few superior statues and mechanisms pretty much did the trick.

But the bottom line is "total value" - obsidian would have done the same eventually.  Or flux, but with 50% more stuff (value 2 vs value 3).  It's just the total you're looking for, nothing complex.

(See the wiki on "value" for more details)

[AtomicPaperclip]

UGH why would you train your engravers on your dining room?

Smooth EVERYTHING first

Then engrave all your useless hallways

Start engraving petty petty bedrooms, then the good ones and finally noble rooms and your dining room

The most important rooms should have the best quality engravings.

[Albedo]

Good advice, but I'd be careful of engraving bedrooms if you are going to suffer the dwarven economy.  You may find that you have no low-rent housing.

[AtomicPaperclip]

Good advice, but I'd be careful of engraving bedrooms if you are going to suffer the dwarven economy.  You may find that you have no low-rent housing.

I wasn't sure on this, never done economy.

I prefer a socialist state, and well, that's what it is without economy.

[geoduck]

Does putting a waterfall in a dining hall help boost to legendary status, or does it just give happy-thoughts to the diners?

[Puck]

Good advice, but I'd be careful of engraving bedrooms if you are going to suffer the dwarven economy.  You may find that you have no low-rent housing.

Or just go set ZERORENT to YES or TRUE or whatever it is, in the init file. Economy or not doesnt matter, but I dont want them to pay rent, that just doesnt feel right.

Either way, I remember, back when my DF OCD wasnt as bad, I just threw in whatever tables and chairs I had and then some statues for good measure - tadddaaaaa - legendary.

No engravings, all crap quality from unskilled workes and those little buggers still were ecstatic about their badass dining room.

Does putting a waterfall in a dining hall help boost to legendary status, or does it just give happy-thoughts to the diners?

Since a waterfall is a pretty dynamic thing, I'm pretty sure it doesnt actually increase room value. Dwarves can look at it and get happy in the pants brain or they get covered by mist and get another positive thought. But room value should be unaffected, but I'm just guesstimating. Still pretty sure, tho.

[zooeyglass]

Good advice, but I'd be careful of engraving bedrooms if you are going to suffer the dwarven economy.  You may find that you have no low-rent housing.

i was about to say exactly the same thing. i try for a range of rooms, from 1x2 basic rooms up to the more lavish 6x6 with engraver walls and masterpiece furniture and the like, for my legendary champions who actually barely spend any time there cos they are out bashing goblins. i like to think that urist mcgoblinmincer is happier in his work knowing that if he were to choose to go for a break, his room looks sparkly and awesome.

[smjjames]

UGH why would you train your engravers on your dining room?

Smooth EVERYTHING first

Then engrave all your useless hallways

Start engraving petty petty bedrooms, then the good ones and finally noble rooms and your dining room

The most important rooms should have the best quality engravings.

Smoothing things does help level them up you know. Plus my masons are usually busy making doors for the bedroom complex.

As Albedo said, it all adds up, especially if the dining room is 20x30 or something. Not sure if room size has an influence alone though.

I play with the economy off, I don't see the point of it.