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lordcooper

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Help me find the ultimate challenge
« on: July 05, 2009, 02:24:14 pm »

So in my usual style, I've decided I want to go OVEBOARD.

I refuse to use tilesets, but other than that I wil add any mod to my game that is posted here.
Currently, I have orcs installed on vanilla, and nothing else.

SO yeah, choose the fate of my dwarves.
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Re: Help me find the ultimate challenge
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2009, 02:51:55 pm »

Search for ender goblins. The only thing that can reliably kill an ender is a sneaking level 300 shield user throwing ballistae ammo.
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Re: Help me find the ultimate challenge
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2009, 03:05:28 pm »

Will do.

Anything else?

Is it possible to have races that come to trade at the same time, but fight each other if at war?
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Re: Help me find the ultimate challenge
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2009, 03:27:03 pm »

Will do.

Anything else?

Is it possible to have races that come to trade at the same time, but fight each other if at war?
It's possible to have traders that will randomly breath fire and smash your depot even if they are friendly with you.  And a ceiling collapse will take out an ender.
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Re: Help me find the ultimate challenge
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2009, 05:29:28 pm »

Orcs, lots and LOTS of orcs.

((Do ender goblins spawn at sieges?))
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Re: Help me find the ultimate challenge
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2009, 08:31:36 pm »

insane fortress is a pretty good start, new, stronger enemies, and all units are much more likely to score critical hits/smash things into unrecognisable lumps.

first time playing in adventure mode a groundhog tore off my arm and then ate my face
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Re: Help me find the ultimate challenge
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2009, 09:48:06 pm »

Just give your dwarves DAMBLOCK: -100
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lordcooper

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Re: Help me find the ultimate challenge
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2009, 09:29:46 am »

Will add in all these.

Anything else?
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Re: Help me find the ultimate challenge
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2009, 03:05:09 pm »

Give all hostile civs [SPEED:1]
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Re: Help me find the ultimate challenge
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2009, 03:32:16 pm »

Give all hostile civs [SPEED:1]
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Leafsnail

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Re: Help me find the ultimate challenge
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2009, 03:35:13 pm »

Give all hostile civs [SPEED:1]
They wouldn't be enemies so much as denizens that move around on wings of fire and tear dwarves to pieces before they even have a chance to give you a spam retreating message.
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Re: Help me find the ultimate challenge
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2009, 03:53:14 pm »

you would get x number of death messages (with x being the number of dwarves in your fortress) all in one second. I bet that any civ with speed of 1 would be able to bypass any traps that you have and the trap wouldn't even trigger. It would be the quickest defeat of a fortress in history ;D
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Re: Help me find the ultimate challenge
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2009, 03:55:29 pm »

you would get x number of death messages (with x being the number of dwarves in your fortress) all in one second. I bet that any civ with speed of 1 would be able to bypass any traps that you have and the trap wouldn't even trigger. It would be the quickest defeat of a fortress in history ;D
Still wouldn't be able to open doors though.  So there'd be some hope, although dwarves running to collect the socks of the fallen would move nearly as fast.

Oh, and I've had a faster, 1 frame defeat, using these two lines of code.

[HEATDAMN_POINT:0]
[SEVERONBREAKS]

The only shame was that the game ended before I got to see the epic explosion.  And I only got one death message before my fort crumbled.
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Re: Help me find the ultimate challenge
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2009, 03:59:22 pm »

and give them [FIREIMMUNE], [FIREIMMUNE_SUPER], and [FIREBREATH]. [FLYING] optional, but potentially helpful. [trAPAVOID] is almost required, but the orcs (and I believe the ender goblins) already have them. Ender goblins > Orcs, by the way. A siege of Orcs were made to be reasonably defeatable by a fortress defense force, an Ender was made to be undefeatable by a multilegendary adventure mode thrower. Though that was proven wrong, the current "exchange rate" for Enders seems to be around 80 well-trained dwarves per dead Ender. If you give them a civilization you'll get local Ender leaders, who will be essentially invulnerable.

Off the top of my head, [NOPAIN], [NONAUSIA], [NOBLEED], [NOBREATH], [NOSTUN], and [NOEXERT] should help quite a bit, especially if you are using [SPEED:1]. [BUILDINGDESTROYER:2] will make them immune to drawbridge-smashing, leaving only cave-ins as instant kills.

Greatly increase the [GROWDUR] of all plants. Give all animals at least size 8, multiply the group numbers by 5. Good luck hunting and growing plants for booze.

Embark-wise, choose a 2x2 metamorphic mountain with no aquifer. Try to find an undead-filled area if possible.

Check the "insane difficulty" thread for some more ideas.
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Re: Help me find the ultimate challenge
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2009, 04:02:47 pm »

Giving goblins a high homeotherm will also make their wrestlers rather dangerous, as in "They'll start fires just by touching clothing".
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