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[Puck]

Darwin is rolling in his grave. Humans are the only species that decided to disobey the laws of evolution.

Been saying that for a long time. When people start to mate not with the most fitting partner but with the most economical/political succesful ones (and this success has NOTHING to do with health or intelligence) you introduce all kinds of problems.

Turns out a lot of people that are a lot smarter than me have also said that for a looong time now. Furthermore it turns out you have to be really careful what you say, you might get called a nazi rather quick 

The bucket story, however... well, that could have been really bad luck, too. like falling from the ladder, headfirst into the bucket, which, for some reason didnt tip over, falling unconscious, and there you have it, instant drownage....

[Chutney]

Th westboro baptist church had a few protests scheduled in the area around my college(one of them being at a highschool that had a Gay-Straight Alliance...? Fuck these people) around 5 days after I left. (by the way, their website (http://www.godhatesfags.com/) has a schedule of all of their protests)
I was seriously contemplating sticking around just to be angry at them, but it would've messed up my entire schedule... Next year...next year...

These are the most disgusting people I've ever heard of, even compare to Hitler, because if given the chance I believe they would perform far worse atrocities (not only murdering millions of homosexuals, but also 'gay sympathizers', soldiers and their families... Who the HELL protests at soldiers funerals? Sick bastards do.)

[Dakk]

I think i would just dress myself in the faggiest way possible without looking ridiculous and prance around ahppily with some friends to piss the shit out of them

[Jualin]

If you feel angry about it, you lose. Go on, try it! Everyone loves a challenge!

I lost the game at around the 50 second mark.

I'd like to think that the video is an extended form of self-parody, mixed with intentionally inflammatory remarks in order to provoke actions toward creating a better, kinder world, even if in anger.

Spoiler: Rant concerning the the video (click to show/hide)

One way or another, I have to see them as misguided in a way. They are absolving themselves from any blame by acting as a victim, as opposed to actually acting upon their ideas and trying to make the world a better place. Inaction, especially theirs, does not equate to moral purity under all circumstances. (Though I'd honestly dislike seeing them act upon their ideas; who knows how badly they could screw that one up, as they are.)

The short of the "moral" video is "God hates everyone". While it goes a long way towards demonstrating the breadth of that hate, it shows very few suggestions for improvement, or makes them rather cryptic. For example, one sign during the video states, "You eat your children". If I have been eating children for the longest time now, I have been ultimately unaware of the fact. Perhaps, if that statement is indeed fact, it would go a long way to explaining what the "mystery meat" they serve in public schools is. They do not state how we've all been eating children, however, and I suppose that is a point we are supposed to mull over by ourselves.

In fact, I suppose that's my greatest source of criticism for the video. One sign shown in the video explicitly states "It's too late to pray now". Well then, what's the point of showing me this? The audio supports this statement, by stating "It's too late to change his mind". One of the most beneficial tools people have to encourage positive behavior is constructive criticism. The total abandonment of that tool suggest to me that rather than a tool to encourage benevolent behavior, or what that particular church identifies as benevolent behavior, this video is a tool by which those people wish to gloat. A tool by which they hope to coerce us all to lay down and die.

If anything, they are encouraging people to lie, cheat, and steal even more, as the consequences no longer matter, according to them. That's hardly something a holy man would do.

It would be interesting to engage with them in an honest discussion, but I cannot trust myself to not smack one of them upside the head.

[Puck]

It would be interesting to engage with them in an honest discussion, but I cannot trust myself to not smack one of them upside the head.

Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

[IndonesiaWarMinister]

The people in the vid might be idiots, and open about it, but christianity as a whole is not really all that better.

To be honest, Christianity has also done some good things. It provided ammo to the abolitionist movement, and Christian charities helped a lot of people. But when you have things like Spanish Inquisition on the other end, it's hard to argue that the scales are balanced.

But...
Spanish Inquisition is cool, though!

Also:

NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!

It would be interesting to engage with them in an honest discussion, but I cannot trust myself to not smack one of them upside the head.

Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Why?

[Puck]

I guess it's because you cannot talk sense into somebody that is too dumb to understand that sense.

[Kagus]

Laughing mah frickin' arse off here.  Awesome video, awesome song (and thanks to Puck for pointing out the tune, I was trying to remember where I'd heard it before).

Idiots who are as gloriously bigoted and stupid as this seem like they were placed on the earth for me to laugh at.  Almost makes me believe in a higher power.


There were two things I found especially entertaining.  One was how they preached that the world was doomed, God hated everyone in it, and that there was nothing we could do to change his mind.  Somehow, they believe that this is a reason to stop sinning.  To me, it just makes it seem like "oh well, no chance at spiritual redemption.  May as well have some fun on my way out!".

The other thing was how the guy screamed "THE SIEGE IS COMING!".  Made me think of Half-Life 2 for some reason.

[Karlito]

I actually won.  Its just too ridiculous to not laugh at.

Is there any reason that the guy in the back was waving a Canadian flag?

[Neonivek]

The Ironic aspect of this is that the people in this thread arn't acting any better then the people in the video. (I havn't watched it but I am assuming its content based on what people are saying)

[Kagus]

The Ironic aspect of this is that the people in this thread arn't acting any better then the people in the video. (I havn't watched it but I am assuming its content based on what people are saying)

Dude, WATCH IT.  Seriously, this stuff is priceless.  Almost as good as rainbow conspiracy lady.

And besides, you really should see what it is you're judging us by.

[Frelock]

Darwin is rolling in his grave. Humans are the only species that decided to disobey the laws of evolution.

Spoiler: The derivative of the thread at point quote lies tangent to the thread. (click to show/hide)

Concerning this, I would actually think that Darwin would say "yep, that's evolution in action."  The only statement made by natural selection is that those which are best fit to breed do so, and pass on their traits to the next generation.  If we have decided collectively, as a species, that a wealthy person is best fit to breed, then by all means they should do so.  Of course, it is somewhat defeating the point if the parents can't pass down their traits to the children, but I'm relatively sure that most of the children of wealthy snobs will become wealthy snobs themselves, so there's not too much of an issue here.

However, I would also like to point out that, statistically, upper and middle class families are far more likely to have less children then poorer families.  Note the rapid population booms and overcrowding in what are normally considered "third world" countries.  More developed countries with a more active middle/upper class have much lower birth rates, and I've heard some even have negative birth/death ratios. 

In any case, you can only look at evolution from a hindsight perspective.  Whatever is more fit to breed does so and the entire species eventually becomes more and more like that ancestor.  The only way you can define more fit to breed is if you take a look back and see what actually did breed more.  That member is therefore the "fittest."

On topic,

Is there any reason that the guy in the back was waving a Canadian flag?

The guy in the back was waving a Canadian flag upside-down.  If I gather information from the video correctly, the WBC is against flags for some reason.  Waving a flag upside-down is disrespectful to that flag, and hence acceptable to the WBC.

As to Neonivek's opinion, I do consider myself somewhat better than those WBC people, though I know I really shouldn't; I've got my own biases which I am fully aware of, and am ashamed of those biases.  The WBC people actively hate those who disagree with them.  I, on the other hand, only feel pity towards them.  They're wallowing in ignorance and hatred, unaware of the greater things in life.  Not to mention they're a group that is hated neigh-universally by all others.  How would you like to be hated by all your neighbors?  You would have to develop some sort of superiority complex in order to deal with it, which these people obviously have.  I feel that they would be so much better off if they would cease their mad claims, and the world would probably be better off too.  However, I also feel that free speech is more important than their well-being, and therefore can't say it would be a good idea to shut them down.

[Broose]

I hate most religion in general. The way children are brainwashed just sickens me.

[Neonivek]

I hate most religion in general. The way children are brainwashed just sickens me.

All Child Reering in general is brainwashing. Mostly due to how children develop.

[IndonesiaWarMinister]

I hate most religion in general. The way children are brainwashed just sickens me.

I hate most religion in general. The way children are brainwashed just sickens me.

All Child Reering in general is brainwashing. Mostly due to how children develop.

This.