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Author Topic: The undead which ones are push overs, which are unholy bringers are destruction?  (Read 2699 times)

SimRobert2001

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The undead which ones are push overs, which are unholy bringers are destruction?
« on: July 02, 2009, 03:00:42 am »
allright, guys, i just started in a terrifying area with undead goats. these were pushovers, but what other creatures will I find that are both push overs, and what others will leave a wrath of destruction in their wake? Here's a few of mine, but what others' are there?

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Re: The undead which ones are push overs, which are unholy bringers are destruction?
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2009, 03:29:48 am »
Skeletal fish, especially carp and sturgeon, also skeletal elephants, whales and the aforementioned skeletal eagles.
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Re: The undead which ones are push overs, which are unholy bringers are destruction?
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2009, 05:06:58 am »
Two words: Skeletal Giant Cave Spiders. Wait...
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Re: The undead which ones are push overs, which are unholy bringers are destruction?
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2009, 08:10:38 am »
For some reason I've never had a huge issue with SGE; they never seemed to attack my dwarves unless I deliberately sent hammerdwarves out to fight them. But yes, SGCS are terrifying beasts to encounter. STEALTH! SO MANY WAYS TO ATTACK! As mentioned before, Skeletal Whales, despite being rather uncommon, are very intense enemies as they come in large, landwalking packs and have an incredible size.
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Re: The undead which ones are push overs, which are unholy bringers are destruction?
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2009, 09:56:36 am »
Correct me if I'm wrong but don't whales also have building destroyer:2?
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Re: The undead which ones are push overs, which are unholy bringers are destruction?
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2009, 10:20:36 am »
All undead have buildingdestroyer and are automatically hostile. The scary ones are anything large. That includes giant eagles, elk, horses, sturgeon, hippos, whales, sharks, elephants, etc. The basic idea is that rather than only having to worry about the large predators, you have to worry about the large everything. Aquatic undead are able to walk on land, too. A sufficiently-trained dwarf, though, will be able to take on pretty much anything, since the undead don't have any wrestling skill.
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Re: The undead which ones are push overs, which are unholy bringers are destruct
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2009, 10:30:59 am »
I get the feeling that Toady gave the undead BUILDINGDESTROYER just so that they could punch through doors damatically.
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Re: The undead which ones are push overs, which are unholy bringers are destruction?
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2009, 12:14:49 pm »
Quote from: Rysith on July 02, 2009, 10:20:36 am
All undead have buildingdestroyer

Really? BD 1 or BD 2?  (BD 1 = doors and some similar things only - I'm guessing that, neh?)

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The scary ones are anything large.

This.

Zombie or skeletal versions of creatures are just that - versions of the same creatures.  So if you have a skeletal cat, it's just not that impressive, regardless.

Anything undead will never feel pain, never get nauseous or tired or whatever, and have no organs to pierce w/ piercing weapons, so bolts and spears are nearly useless (they'll still do "damage", just never get crits.)  Axes will still dismember them, and hammers still knock them across the screen.

Other than that, they're just creatures.
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Re: The undead which ones are push overs, which are unholy bringers are destruction?
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2009, 12:54:56 pm »
I keep having skeletal foxes and raccoons knocking over statues.
Does that answer BD1 or BD2?
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Re: The undead which ones are push overs, which are unholy bringers are destruction?
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2009, 04:27:56 pm »
Sounds like BD1, the lesser evil, and that sounds right.

BD2 would be tearing up workshops and trade depots and such, typical megabeast stuff.
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Re: The undead which ones are push overs, which are unholy bringers are destruction?
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2009, 06:48:45 pm »
I have never had undead get as far as a workshop or a trade depot.

My current map is under a never ending siege of SKELETAL foxes, raccoons, jaguars, and deer.  Seriously, I can hardly get anything done with the URIST MCPUSSY CANCELS HAUL ITEM: SKELETAL BUNNY RABBIT nonsense.

I have cleared the map of all life and un-life several times.  The animals seem to regen as soon as I kill them off.
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Quote from: Hyndis on July 09, 2009, 04:48:25 pm
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Re: The undead which ones are push overs, which are unholy bringers are destruct
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2009, 07:01:55 pm »
I had one site with skeletal raccoons/deer that were complete pushovers, which lead me to underestimate the skeletal muskoxen that showed up a season in.

I didn't want to reclaim.
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Re: The undead which ones are push overs, which are unholy bringers are destruction?
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2009, 07:23:34 pm »
Skeletal and zombie camels, oh god.

Also, off topic, but.
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Re: The undead which ones are push overs, which are unholy bringers are destruction?
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2009, 01:18:19 pm »
Quote from: Smew on July 02, 2009, 07:23:34 pm
Skeletal and zombie camels, oh god.

Also, off topic, but.
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Anyhow, yeah, skeletal and zombie camels, cruel Armok, those things are insane.

I forgot about the packs of skeletal wolves roaming my map.
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Quote from: Hyndis on July 09, 2009, 04:48:25 pm
People burning, booze exploding, the fort is on fire, the countryside has turned to ash.  Its business as usual.

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Re: The undead which ones are push overs, which are unholy bringers are destruction?
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2009, 01:06:59 am »
skeletal carp just killed 4/10 of my elite/champion marksdwarves. They had the harass dangerous animals option on. I have a feeling they ran out of bolts and charged the damn things.
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