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Author Topic: The undead which ones are push overs, which are unholy bringers are destruction?  (Read 2695 times)

Asehujiko

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Undead Giant Eagles are simply monstrous. The only reliable way to take down regular ones, ie knocking them out and letting them fall to their death, doesn't work on them.
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I've been dealing with some zombie hippos and they don't seem too bad if you don't let them drag the dwarves into the water (other than there being a lot of them). I had a regular dog take one down on his own. He was immediately torn to pieces by 3 other hippos but oh well.

I take it skeletal is the stronger of the two varieties?

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I don't think stronger, but Skeletal is definitely faster.
Zombie might be worse since it still has all its organs and stuff, meaning your weapons might hit an organ instad of severing a limb.
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Skelephants and Zombie whales
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Ya, the map gives you several animal types to have on the map at a time. When one leaves another shows up. It can be nice to have some large flying carnivore show up when they just fly up to some spot and sit there forever not bothering your dwarves while taking up that slot so something nastier can't get it.

After killing a pretty massive number of zombie goats they will eventually have exhausted their population and stop spawning but that takes quite awhile and your fort gets a little more boring without anything to kill. I'd recommend beating up the stragglers that get close enough to freak your dwarves out but then bringing the troops over towards the entrance in hopes of some of the packs minding their own business on the other side of the mountain.
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Well that fits with what I've seen then since my dwarves are armed with maces and hammers which avoid the whole stuck weapon problem.

Zombies, from what I've seen are more of a persistent threat than anything. All my dwarves are significantly faster than them so they're only really dangerous when they come close enough that I have to deal with them.

If you have a map that primarily has zombie creatures will you ever get skeletal. My terrifying biome spawned with maybe 20-30 zombie fish and 10-20 zombie hippos but not a single skeletal monster.

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I wish I could exhaust the undead population.
I have been endlessly besieged by skeletal foxes, raccoons, deer, elk, and wolves, Giant cougars, Giant jaguars, and the occasional Black Bear.
Also have had a Titan and 1 or 2 Dragons show up.
Also, Giant Desert Scorpion.
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Magma. The answer to all your undead problems.
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I don't think stronger, but Skeletal is definitely faster.
Zombie might be worse since it still has all its organs and stuff, meaning your weapons might hit an organ instad of severing a limb.
That's pretty correct; I tend to see Skeletals as a far greater threat to my civilian dwarves as they can chase them a lot easier, while zombies are harder for my soldiers to fight but easier for my civies to escape from.
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Ugh, I started a fortress on an evil biome next to a river. BIG MISTAKE.

After my 40-odd starting dogs were massacred by a small troupe of skeletal horses, I look over at the river to see a horde of skeletal carp flopping about up the hillside towards my barely-embarked dwarves. 12 seconds later every single dwarf and remaining dog was dead.
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The worst undead, are the most uncommon, so i'd say Skeletal Orcs! Skorcs?
since the real ones are basically invulnerable to EVERYTHING but piercing weapons. skorcs are the unholy world destroyers, tht is, if your unlucky enough to run into a large group.
(i'm not sure if Skorcs exsist but if they don't, i will learn to make them!)
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After my 40-odd starting dogs were massacred by a small troupe of skeletal horses, I look over at the river to see a horde of skeletal carp flopping about up the hillside towards my barely-embarked dwarves. 12 seconds later every single dwarf and remaining dog was dead.

The same happened to me. I ended up abandoning over 1/2 of my starting supplies. I didn't even wait around for the zombie hippos to reach the wagon before I hightailed it out of there.

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I wish I could exhaust the undead population.
I have been endlessly besieged by skeletal foxes, raccoons, deer, elk, and wolves, Giant cougars, Giant jaguars, and the occasional Black Bear.
Also have had a Titan and 1 or 2 Dragons show up.
Also, Giant Desert Scorpion.
If you really want to stop them coming into your map just dig something to get them into and then trap them in it. Could be a pit they can't climb out of or could be a hallway with floodgates at either end- whatever. They'll be stuck on the map but sealed away from your populace and because they are there nothing else will be able to enter the map.

Cage traps count as killing them in terms of that counter and I don't think letting them out counts as a revival so don't bother with that. Sealing off a bunch of foxes probably won't keep bears away and I'm pretty sure megabeasts don't have or take up "slots" in the local wildlife.
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The thing is, all the bones i get from the endlessly respawning foxes and deer are nice.  I just wish the civilians did not run screaming from a Skeletal Fox.

On the plus side, most of my soldiers now have at least 10 kills.
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Well, on my current terrifying mountain map, Skeletal Giant Eagles are basically the crux of my poor dwarves' existence. It's gotten so bad, I've basically sealed myself in, with some walled-off sections for farming and refuse (and fishing, too, I'm very proud of that for some reason). Goddamn eagles just show up, tear open 3 or 4 outdoorsmen (wood cutting, plant gathering, fishing, stuff like that), wait for a whole bunch of the survivors to run out while I'm busy doing something else, and reduce my population by a quarter (popcap 60).

Come to think of it, skeletal goats, contrary to your opinions, can be stunningly lethal. Like when you don't yet have military, but you do have 5 goats interrupting the hell out of all your dwarves (it seems their malignant aura can be felt through 6 tile-wide walls, the apparitions) and a single goat manages to tear your only competent axeman several additional breathing holes right throught the chest. Oh well, another lesson learned, I guess :)

On the bright side, I really don't have to worry about running out of bone bolts. On the really, really gloomy side, I quite often have to worry about running out of trained wood cutters.

Oh, and just to whine some more, in the first 15 seconds of the game a SGE managed to kill my only mechanic/architect/furnace operator :(
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