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Author Topic: Winning the War on Unapproved Military Tactics  (Read 5800 times)

Strife26

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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2009, 06:04:38 am »

Oh, would you like my normal Bush is a flaming idiot and all presidents should be forced to write "I will not get America into needless war" 50 times on a chalk board and memorize Washington's farewell address speech?

What specific things of W do you have issue with?
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2009, 06:08:53 am »

What specific things of W do you have issue with?
"the smoking gun, in the form of a.... mushroom cloud."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gUzD1Ud4Lk

I could list other things, but it would be like beating a dead horse.
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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2009, 06:45:47 am »

How can the United States win the War in Terror?

Dear US fellas, I have a question for you. Why is the US acting like the "world police" or something like that? Take a look at Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran etc. Their governments must do what the US wants, or else it's WARTIME. Why? This is the reason [US politics] why 9/11 happened imo. I wouldn't give a **** about these countries to be honest.
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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2009, 06:49:42 am »

What did we do to provoke 9/11, pray tell?

Iraq (this one) was clearly a fucked up job. I doubt that anyone can argue against the first one though (except maybe the end).

Iran? We haven't bomb them recently. If you're talking about putting the Shah in power, then yup. Fucked up there (mind you, it's justifiable for the times)
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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2009, 06:52:43 am »

Well yeah, and now it's N.Korea time? Let's just hope that they don't have any nukes yet... :-\
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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2009, 06:54:58 am »

I could see an invasion of N. Korea. I wouldn't like it, but it's doable.
Nuclear proliferation = really really bad.
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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2009, 07:51:16 am »

I could see an invasion of N. Korea. I wouldn't like it, but it's doable.
Nuclear proliferation = really really bad.

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Isn't the nuclear tests are N. Korea's strategy to NOT get invaded?
If they really have one (or two) then invading them is really counter productive.

They could just target New York, or LA (LA is on the west coast, right?) and boom!

WWIII

Beside, I reckon EU will be the major superpower by 2020, anyway. Your imperium is crumbling, (aspiring) soldier.
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« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2009, 08:33:26 am »

I think terrorism is the best military tactic. You kill 3000 innocents at most. Normally just 30 or so, even with a very organized strike.

Compare that the ridiculous casualty rates with precision weapons. 90,000 you say? Has the strike in Iraq accomplished anything?

The American economy did experience some severe damage from the 9/11 attacks. The terrorists accomplished something there.. they made the enemy attack a tyrant and waste trillions.

It's a smart tactic. I don't support terrorism any more than I support war. But it's the best kind of war, if you really have to have one. War on terrorism is stupid. You kill more people, you piss off more of them, you create MORE terrorists. Diplomacy FTW.
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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2009, 10:12:16 am »

Terrorism is a mediocre military tactic. All it can do is force a stalemate. See the Israel/Palestine conflict.

Thing is, terrorism rates have plummeted in Iraq and Afghanistan. Seems like we've made some progress. Really, the way to remove terrorism as a tactic is to make it unprofitable, which requires both military retaliation and little media coverage.
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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2009, 11:26:55 am »

Terrorist countries have problems dealing with other countries. Globalized economy and all that. It's the tactic of weak cowards.
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« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2009, 11:30:50 am »

War on a military tactic?  I always thought that it was war on an emotion.
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« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2009, 12:10:43 pm »

It a war against the emotion which results in the use of a military tactic, really.
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« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2009, 01:39:41 pm »

Terrorist countries have problems dealing with other countries. Globalized economy and all that. It's the tactic of weak cowards.

It's easy for the 200-pound, 6'8" tall bully to call the skinny, undernourished Arabian kid a weak coward. But then, when that Arabian kid is beating up the bully's 4-year old brother, maybe he is. It's complicated. It's not a fair fight, and all this increased heavy handed bullying to wipe them out will make the weak cowards angrier and more devious.

Terrorism is a mediocre military tactic. All it can do is force a stalemate. See the Israel/Palestine conflict.

Thing is, terrorism rates have plummeted in Iraq and Afghanistan. Seems like we've made some progress. Really, the way to remove terrorism as a tactic is to make it unprofitable, which requires both military retaliation and little media coverage.

True on both counts. But hey, to them, a stalemate is better than losing. If you can't win, if you're going to die anyway, then pound the other guys all you can. Suicide is major sin in Islam, and if you have Islamic terrorists somehow convincing themselves that blowing themselves up is not suicide, it shows that they're seriously desperate.
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« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2009, 03:23:42 pm »

You can't. There's no way to kill a concept, a thought, an emotion or a tactic. You can eliminate its use, but not itself. America needs to be a lot less provoking and aggressive.

You think that America would ever use a nuke?
Well, they did.
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« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2009, 03:29:51 pm »

Better than having to deal with Japanese civilians who would become suicide bombers en masse. The projected deaths on a home island invasion were astronomical.
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