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Author Topic: Strife's plans (profanity inside)  (Read 2833 times)

florian

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Re: Strife's plans (profanity inside)
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2009, 03:10:58 pm »

I know you are as patriotic as possible, but attacking countries has never helped anyone. In fact, I can't find any war within the last 50 year which the attacking country won, but I can think of lots of wars which the attacking country lost: WW2, Vietnam, Falklands, Iraq, …
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2009, 03:14:39 pm »

Neither has letting yourself be attacked.
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florian

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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2009, 03:21:13 pm »

Neither has letting yourself be attacked.
"Betty, you are pretty dumb for letting yourself get raped."
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Strife26

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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2009, 03:31:10 pm »

But Betty would have been perfectly justified to kill said raper.
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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2009, 03:34:35 pm »

But Betty would have been perfectly justified to kill said raper.
"Iraq is justified to nuke the US." What the US did was a to start a war of aggression which is a war crime.
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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2009, 06:20:10 pm »

Strife my patriotic chum, don't worry so much. Honestly, there is very little you can do unless you have a position in the House or Senate or whatever.
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Grek

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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2009, 06:26:01 pm »

But Betty would have been perfectly justified to kill said raper.
"Iraq is justified to nuke the US." What the US did was a to start a war of aggression which is a war crime.
Nuclear war is only justifiable by nuclear war or something equally bad. Iraq would, however, be justified in invading the US during the Iraq war. It would be tactically stupid, but there would be nothing morally objectionable about it.
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Re: Strife's plans (profanity inside)
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2009, 08:01:22 pm »

I know you are as patriotic as possible, but attacking countries has never helped anyone. In fact, I can't find any war within the last 50 year which the attacking country won, but I can think of lots of wars which the attacking country lost: WW2, Vietnam, Falklands, Iraq, …

Let's see, with a litle help of wikipedia we get the following list between 1950 and 1989:
The Suez crisis ended pretty well for the attacking countries (England, France and Israel)
Castro's second invasion of Cuba succeeded (though that was not a real bilateral war)
China's invasion of Tibet was a complete sucess (what a surtprise...)
India was sucessfull in driving the portugese out of their colonies in the Indian area's

Interestingly enough more then 75% (my own estimation) of the wars fought between 1945 and new have been civil wars...
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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2009, 08:29:09 pm »

Your plans don't include the part were you gain significant enough influence in politics that these things can actually be implemented. I presume that I am to presume, presumably.
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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2009, 09:51:16 pm »

Your plans don't include the part were you gain significant enough influence in politics that these things can actually be implemented. I presume that I am to presume, presumably.

That's the big problem with them. Isn't it?
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Luke_Prowler

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« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2009, 10:48:49 pm »

So what's your plan on openning new jobs for workers?
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Strife26

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« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2009, 10:59:53 pm »

Don't have one. The best way that I could think of would be to try to promote more home grown industry. I've remembered a few points that I forgot

Poor money into nuclear, geothermal, and solar research (and contruction). Keep it all home grown if possible.

Redoubling the efforts in Afghanistan was an important sub point of the leave Iraq idea that I somehow forgot.

Deoxidizing the rust belt would be nice. I'm not sure how that would actually happen though (short of WWIII, which would kinda suck even though it would solve pretty much everything).
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Luke_Prowler

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« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2009, 11:21:30 pm »

Well, my suggestion would be to put a tax on goods made by american companys that outsourse (all of them), in order to make it more profitable to have the jobs here.
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Strife26

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« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2009, 11:40:01 pm »

What about foreign companies selling stuff directly (all imports?)
If you do that, you run into protectionism and isolationism, neither of which have worked in the past (the Smoot-Hawley tariff in particular). Mind you, the massive trade imbalance days we're facing now aren't good either.
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« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2009, 12:03:15 am »

I think that import from foreign companies are fine as they are (aside from quality regulation).
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