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Author Topic: Woman Fined $1.9 Million for Downloading 24 Songs  (Read 8256 times)

Dakk

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Re: Woman Fined $1.9 Million for Downloading 24 Songs
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2009, 06:57:41 pm »

Laws are organized in a hierarchy.
Constitutional laws are above ordinary laws.
This sentence offends the constitution.
Therefore its illegal.

Or it would be, if she had a decent lawyer, and if the jury had more then half a brain regarding the USA's contitution.

Of course, there may be things in this case that we don't know, and may have affected the jury and the judge's decision.
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Re: Woman Fined $1.9 Million for Downloading 24 Songs
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2009, 07:01:30 pm »

Of course, there may be things in this case that we don't know, and may have affected the jury and the judge's decision.
RIAA must have had sleepers in the jury.
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Re: Woman Fined $1.9 Million for Downloading 24 Songs
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2009, 07:01:51 pm »

I would have probably done the same thing just to show off how much legal power I have. To show the people who the REAL boss is.

That's what, you know, tyrants and dictators do.
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Re: Woman Fined $1.9 Million for Downloading 24 Songs
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2009, 07:23:43 pm »

I would have probably done the same thing just to show off how much legal power I have. To show the people who the REAL boss is.

That's what, you know, tyrants and dictators do.

Are you implying that cowofdoom78963 isn't a dictator or tyrant?
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Re: Woman Fined $1.9 Million for Downloading 24 Songs
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2009, 08:02:25 pm »

Heh, Im not a dictator Im just looking at things from RIAA's shoes. They just dont want to look like wimps. If people saw her win a suit against them, they might get the idea they can too. Also she was being pretty cocky thinking she could take on a whole company, nay a whole group of companys in court. She should have known her place and just payed their original fine.

Well of course they gave her the option of settling out of court first time around. But she thought she could challenge them. Of course she was in no position to do that so they made sure she either payed what she owed, or be utterly destroyed.

Of course their not going to charge her 1.9 million, their going to offer to settle out of court again. So in a way they could charge her any number between $1 to 1.9 mil, she could have gotten off easy if she dident go to court. Im sure the judge knew this from the start. The 1.9 mil was just a way to teach her not to fuck with the RIAA.

Also she was being a communist and taking jobs from people, and why? For her own entertainment.

And in the end they had the whole thing made out in their favor from the very start. They played the judicial system like game of chess. Check mate.
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Re: Woman Fined $1.9 Million for Downloading 24 Songs
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2009, 08:04:48 pm »

Well maybe she is trying to build legal precident.

When you settle out of court nothing is revealed.
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Re: Woman Fined $1.9 Million for Downloading 24 Songs
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2009, 12:00:33 pm »

We should implement this as a newspaper event on LCS.
Cowofdoom's post sounds conservative enough :P
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Re: Woman Fined $1.9 Million for Downloading 24 Songs
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2009, 12:03:04 pm »

We should implement this as a newspaper event on LCS.
Cowofdoom's post sounds conservative enough :P
Nay, such actions transcend any political group or ideal. It's a human thing.
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Re: Woman Fined $1.9 Million for Downloading 24 Songs
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2009, 12:10:10 pm »

RIAA must have had sleepers in the jury.
I'm just surprised the money awarded in the case didn't roll over to a random power of two.

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Also she was being a communist and taking jobs from people, and why? For her own entertainment.
And they have taken away all the money she will ever own.  I'd call that far more communistic.

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Remember those films that when you watch them they told you how much you can be fined by?
Hmm, so if the government shows a film "Don't drive at 31 miles an hour in a residential zone or we'll stone you to death" that makes it ok?

And CDs don't tend to have such sequences at the start anyway.
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Re: Woman Fined $1.9 Million for Downloading 24 Songs
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2009, 02:23:33 pm »

Heh, Im not a dictator Im just looking at things from RIAA's shoes. They just dont want to look like wimps. If people saw her win a suit against them, they might get the idea they can too. Also she was being pretty cocky thinking she could take on a whole company, nay a whole group of companys in court. She should have known her place and just payed their original fine.

Well of course they gave her the option of settling out of court first time around. But she thought she could challenge them. Of course she was in no position to do that so they made sure she either payed what she owed, or be utterly destroyed.

Of course their not going to charge her 1.9 million, their going to offer to settle out of court again. So in a way they could charge her any number between $1 to 1.9 mil, she could have gotten off easy if she dident go to court. Im sure the judge knew this from the start. The 1.9 mil was just a way to teach her not to fuck with the RIAA.

Also she was being a communist and taking jobs from people, and why? For her own entertainment.

And in the end they had the whole thing made out in their favor from the very start. They played the judicial system like game of chess. Check mate.

But in doing so they ignore all precedents. Downloading songs isn't much different the other forms of copyright infringement (forging a painting for example, or duplicating text from a book and using it in your own book. Hell, patent infringement fines for big cases usually run into the hundred millions, and that's only 2 orders of magnitudes up from coppying 24 songs. I sense an oddity)
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Re: Woman Fined $1.9 Million for Downloading 24 Songs
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2009, 03:16:52 pm »

Heh, Im not a dictator Im just looking at things from RIAA's shoes. They just dont want to look like wimps. If people saw her win a suit against them, they might get the idea they can too. Also she was being pretty cocky thinking she could take on a whole company, nay a whole group of companys in court. She should have known her place and just payed their original fine.

Well of course they gave her the option of settling out of court first time around. But she thought she could challenge them. Of course she was in no position to do that so they made sure she either payed what she owed, or be utterly destroyed.

Of course their not going to charge her 1.9 million, their going to offer to settle out of court again. So in a way they could charge her any number between $1 to 1.9 mil, she could have gotten off easy if she dident go to court. Im sure the judge knew this from the start. The 1.9 mil was just a way to teach her not to fuck with the RIAA.

Also she was being a communist and taking jobs from people, and why? For her own entertainment.

And in the end they had the whole thing made out in their favor from the very start. They played the judicial system like game of chess. Check mate.

But in doing so they ignore all precedents. Downloading songs isn't much different the other forms of copyright infringement (forging a painting for example, or duplicating text from a book and using it in your own book. Hell, patent infringement fines for big cases usually run into the hundred millions, and that's only 2 orders of magnitudes up from coppying 24 songs. I sense an oddity)
They have done it before and they will do it again.

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And they have taken away all the money she will ever own.  I'd call that far more communistic.
How is that communistic?
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Re: Woman Fined $1.9 Million for Downloading 24 Songs
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2009, 04:15:06 pm »

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And they have taken away all the money she will ever own.  I'd call that far more communistic.
How is that communistic?
You do know what Communism is, right?  Because you seem to have gotten it mixed up with 'evil'.
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Re: Woman Fined $1.9 Million for Downloading 24 Songs
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2009, 04:26:04 pm »

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And they have taken away all the money she will ever own.  I'd call that far more communistic.
How is that communistic?
You do know what Communism is, right?  Because you seem to have gotten it mixed up with 'evil'.
Maybe Cow's a capitalist?
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Re: Woman Fined $1.9 Million for Downloading 24 Songs
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2009, 04:33:51 pm »

It isn't communism, since that money won't end up with the people ;)
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Re: Woman Fined $1.9 Million for Downloading 24 Songs
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2009, 04:35:49 pm »

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And they have taken away all the money she will ever own.  I'd call that far more communistic.
How is that communistic?
You do know what Communism is, right?  Because you seem to have gotten it mixed up with 'evil'.
Maybe Cow's a capitalist?
Then he should certainly be against a court interfering with business, and saying a person owes a company all the money they will ever make ever for effectively stealing one CD.
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