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zestorum

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Help with building a water tower
« on: June 20, 2009, 05:43:27 am »

I do not have a clue on where to start. Can someone please help me create one, by step by step instructions? They do not need to be detail, but I may get confused about some aspect. Also I am not a dwarf so please don't overcomplicate it.
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Haedrian

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Re: Help with building a water tower
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2009, 05:58:37 am »

I built a watertower once just for the sake of it.

The 'hardest' part is to raise the water up enough levels.

So basically you should use a number of screw pumps to do that.

Screw pumps take water from level -1 and place it on the back of the pump at level 0. So if you use a system of pumps - each one pumping the other's 'output water', you can effectivly raise water a few levels.

Then its just a simple case of using Construction to build sealed tower (remember to put a floodgate and attach a lever for when you want to empty the tower) (and probably another floodgate to block water being pumped)

And you're pretty much done.

Its not very useful to be honest, but nice if you want to flood the world.
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Re: Help with building a water tower
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2009, 06:06:16 am »

I built a watertower once just for the sake of it.

The 'hardest' part is to raise the water up enough levels.

So basically you should use a number of screw pumps to do that.

Screw pumps take water from level -1 and place it on the back of the pump at level 0. So if you use a system of pumps - each one pumping the other's 'output water', you can effectivly raise water a few levels.

Then its just a simple case of using Construction to build sealed tower (remember to put a floodgate and attach a lever for when you want to empty the tower) (and probably another floodgate to block water being pumped)

And you're pretty much done.

Its not very useful to be honest, but nice if you want to flood the world.
Actually, it's pretty easy to create a fairly hefty wall of water by abusing the pressure system. Good for rapidly flooding a noble's room or trade depot filled with elves.
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Re: Help with building a water tower
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2009, 06:14:29 am »

Yes, I know it involved screwpumps but I really can't figure out the layout, if a screwpump is pointing towards the stairs, will it go down them or will the screwpump above catch it?

Also do screwpumps power screwpumps next to them, in all 10 directions?
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Re: Help with building a water tower
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2009, 06:18:22 am »

Yes, I know it involved screwpumps but I really can't figure out the layout, if a screwpump is pointing towards the stairs, will it go down them or will the screwpump above catch it?

Also do screwpumps power screwpumps next to them, in all 10 directions?
I don't quite understand the first question, but yes to the second.
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zestorum

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Re: Help with building a water tower
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2009, 06:25:08 am »

Err, diagram

level 1
............
............
.....>.....
.....%....   dumping the water onto the stairs....
.....%....

level 2

............
............
.....>.....
.....%.... Taking from the stairs
.....%....
............

Will level 2 catch the water from the screwpump on level 1 or not?
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Re: Help with building a water tower
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2009, 06:28:49 am »

Any reason why you want to use stairs? Just use a channel.

The way I did it was ...

_%%~~~
Level 0
OOOO_%%~~~
level 1
ect

It takes a bit more space to make (you could make it in a square so its not so much), but its much easier to build IMHO
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Re: Help with building a water tower
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2009, 06:29:43 am »

Yes, I know it involved screwpumps but I really can't figure out the layout, if a screwpump is pointing towards the stairs, will it go down them or will the screwpump above catch it?

Also do screwpumps power screwpumps next to them, in all 10 directions?
I don't quite understand the first question, but yes to the second.

You have no idea how much easier this is going to make my life.
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Re: Help with building a water tower
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2009, 11:28:13 am »

http://dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Pump#Pumping_up_multiple_levels

You can stack them right on top of each other in alternating directions, with a channel under one spot to power them.



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Re: Help with building a water tower
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2009, 12:28:05 pm »

There are some good diagrams in the wiki - see articles on "pump", "tower" and "defense design".

The bottom line is that you must remember 2 things when planning - 1) you can only build on top of walls (tho' you can build walls attached to other things, even up in the air), and 2) you need to get a staircase to access the level you are currently working on - and that means at least a down stair (or an up/down) from that level to access the lower one.

You want a small (or large) team of masons, plus haulers to keep stone handy, and some mendicants to tear down mistakes and temporary constructions.  Plus security if there is any chance of ambush/siege - a security wall might be your best first move, at least 20 tiles out from the perimeter of the tower for proof against enemy archers.

(In fact, building a small archer tower, as shown in the wiki "tower" page, might be the perfect test construction - only 50 stones, and it has several key elements that you'll apply to any larger structure.)
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Re: Help with building a water tower
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2009, 08:29:33 pm »

http://dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Pump#Pumping_up_multiple_levels

You can stack them right on top of each other in alternating directions, with a channel under one spot to power them.
Thanks, I'm going to decontruct and reconstruct, i know where i went wrong now.
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Re: Help with building a water tower
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2009, 09:46:47 pm »

water tower pfff...

magma tower
(and since its pumped it's pressurized!)
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Re: Help with building a water tower
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2009, 09:36:06 pm »

here

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