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Jackrabbit

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Lucid dreaming
« on: June 19, 2009, 08:34:55 pm »

Wow, it didn't take me long to make this topic. Headlong charges into ideas, without thinking about it, that's me!

Anyway, I have to ask. Does anyone here dream lucidly? How was it? And did you train yourself to dream lucidly? I have never had a lucid dream and I feel like it's an opportunity that I'm missing out on. I would really love to know how to dream lucidly.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2009, 08:42:48 pm »

I have lucid dreams all the time.

Like I said in josh's topic, you need to be able to recognize the signs of dreaming.
Unless necessary, you usually won't be able to read, change the status of lights, or feel pain.

Also, wake up slow without disturbances. You should find yourself able to be awake, but still dream.

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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2009, 08:44:27 pm »

Wow. It seems astonishing that we take dreaming in our stride. But anyway, did you always dream lucidly? Or did you train yourself?
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2009, 08:46:17 pm »

No training.
It just kinda started to happen (with the waking up slowly) after I moved to Hawaii and had my own room with plenty of privacy. Usually only on weekends and holidays and stuff though.

The other things (signs of dreaming) I learned from a movie. I forget what it's called, but it was pretty cool.

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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2009, 08:50:55 pm »

http://ld4all.com/
I've been going to this site for info on Lucid Dreaming. I've only had two within the last month that I remember. One lasted a few minutes and the other a few seconds. Both were one of the weirdest and most fascinating experiences I've ever had.

I haven't been able to have one since school got out, but that could be due to my lateness in going to bed.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2009, 09:00:25 pm »

I was just about to make a dream type of topic myself.

Anyways, I haven't ever been able to get myself into a successful lucid dream. However I am able to put myself into a lucid Hypnagogia at will. Which is a weird state, especially when your brain starts to try and go into REM and you feel your eyes moving by themselves.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2009, 09:00:49 pm »

I attempted to train myself, but started having them spontaneously, without training.  The first went directly from waking to lucid dreaming, the second was reality-check induced(Which I guess was the training, although I didn't really reality check much in the real world) and the third was just a sudden realization that I was dreaming.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2009, 09:10:43 pm »

I was just about to make a dream type of topic myself.

Anyways, I haven't ever been able to get myself into a successful lucid dream. However I am able to put myself into a lucid Hypnagogia at will. Which is a weird state, especially when your brain starts to try and go into REM and you feel your eyes moving by themselves.

That's the farthest I've ever got in intentionally trying to get a lucid dream. The two times I did get it were from recognizing family members who had passed away which sucked. I think I'm gonna try the wake-induced method in a few hours when I go to bed.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2009, 09:13:15 pm »

I was just about to make a dream type of topic myself.

Anyways, I haven't ever been able to get myself into a successful lucid dream. However I am able to put myself into a lucid Hypnagogia at will. Which is a weird state, especially when your brain starts to try and go into REM and you feel your eyes moving by themselves.

That's the farthest I've ever got in intentionally trying to get a lucid dream. The two times I did get it were from recognizing family members who had passed away which sucked. I think I'm gonna try the wake-induced method in a few hours when I go to bed.

Yeah I never get past the REM starting and throw myself awake, I think my brain just has trouble letting go of reality or something.  :-\

I've had a few dreams were I almost managed to take control of but the act of trying to control them usually throws me awake, or I get freaked out and wake myself.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2009, 10:11:16 pm »

I didn't know what it was called, nor did I purposely train myself to do it, but I have lucid dreams all the time.
Hehehe... they're fun!

Anyway, the first one I remember was way back when pokemon was popular. I was dreaming about the TV series and suddenly realized 'Wait a minute, I'm IN a cartoon. WTF?" Then I (dream self) bit my tounge as a reality check and felt no pain. I promptly turned myself into some version of mewtwo from the first movie, and started pwning everything else, throwing around vortexes, ripping chunks out of the ground, etc.

Recently (in the past several years), I haven't had so many dreams due to a distinct lack of proper sleep. Whenever I do have a dream that I still remember in the morning (not usually very clearly, but I remember I had a dream), I also took control of it at some point. Some of the time, my undies are wet for some odd reason. :o Those times, I sorta wish I remembered the whole thing.

Usually, the problem is that the dream ends too soon after I seize control...
If I were playing baseball, I'd hit the ball so hard that it'd burst into flame, scream out of the park, and split the bat in two. Then I'd run around first base, reach second base within a moment of the baseman catching the ball, and leap five feet over his head to the base. Then I would go around third, and halfway back to home plate, time would start to slooooowwww dddoooowwwwnn and *snap* I'd wake up. >:(

EDIT:
A little help on how to train yourself?
Sure, no problem.

Start biting your tongue hard enough that it very clearly hurts, just as a reality check while you're awake. Bite down the moment you find anything even slightly unusual, or get a sense of deja-vu or whatever.

Recognize someone you can't name? Bite.
Just did a double take? Bite.
Just see something awful happen? Bite... though you probably will be too caught up with the nightmare to remember this.
Just realize that you skipped a common habit of yours? Bite.
Doing something silly on stage in your underpants? Bite.
Doing something that you too-late-realize is very embarrassing? Bite.
Make it a habit, not an obsession. You probably have a few decades to get it.

Don't worry about all that causing much damage to your tongue. You probably aren't mentally capable of biting hard enough or long enough to cause any problems.

THE KEY IS TO NOT EXPECT PAIN. If you're expecting it to hurt, and you are dreaming, it will still hurt, and the purpose is defeated.

Eventually, you'll bite down and it won't hurt at all.
Congratulations, this means that you are now aware that you're dreaming. Feel free to try whatever the hell you want. You were having a nightmare? Try letting a beast eat you and make its belly teleport you wherever you want. Try not to get too caught up in any one thing (like what the teleporter tunnel/esophagus should look like or how long it should appear to last), because you might get sorta... stuck at that point, until you wake yourself up or fall into another, less lucid dream.

2nd edit:
I once (while doped up on some meds for some chickenpox or measles or whatever at the age of seven) managed lucid hypnogagia. I was falling asleep and I attacked some robot near my house, when I found out that I could bite my tongue and feel pain. I could open my eyes, see the room, and move my body a little, then close them again and see the robot. That was interesting, but not very pleasant.


Final note of advice: Don't think about this too much in bed. It'll keep you awake longer and make you less likely to dream coherently.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2009, 12:14:30 am »

I have once had a... very strange dream, in which I was awake at the same time. The problem was I wasn't controlling myself as far as I could tell. The start of the dream was signaled by me vibrating rapidly, after which I ended up in a Rugrats type world, with all the characters, except I was in the middle of a lightsaber fight. And yet, I was also awake. I have never been able to replicate that.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2009, 12:15:38 am »

Daydream?

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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2009, 12:31:48 am »

I actually, have a type of insomnia.

I don't encounter REM, Everything in my dream is controlled by me.

And it gets crazy that way.

I'm always aware that I'm awake for some reason, as well, making sleeping hard. Like, I feel that I'm closing my eyes for the whole 9 hour sleep.

It's actually quite not fun, when you're in total control of your dreams. Imagination often relies on yourself, and most of the time, everything is "unstable". For some reason, I get this feeling of no gravity, where if I don't hold everything down with imaginary invisible force hands, everything starts to fly away. That, and the randomness of objects appearing.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2009, 12:56:15 am »

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I have lucid dreams all the time.
I hate you.



I don't dream at all. It's like I blink and then there is ambient light and bird noises. If someone invents a lucid dreaming machine I will let him name my firstborn.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2009, 12:57:26 am »

How are you not dead?  I'm pretty sure REM sleep is an essential part of the cycle.

Also, instead of biting your tongue, count your fingers.  If you have too many, or too few, or visible deformities, you know you're dreaming.  That was how I had my second lucid dream.  It hurts less.
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