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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #480 on: October 21, 2010, 08:39:31 pm »

I usally like to fall asleep, but then in my dream i'd fall asleep again, so im having two dreams, then i'd do it again so im dream while im dreaming while dreaming. But another time i fell into another dream so im in my forth dream while dreaming in my dream that i dreamed.
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« Reply #481 on: October 21, 2010, 08:42:26 pm »

After seeing this thread bumped, I remembered something strange from my dreams last night. I'm pretty sure I dreamed that I had a lucid dream. Or maybe it actually was lucid, but I don't think so.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #482 on: October 22, 2010, 02:28:21 pm »

After seeing this thread bumped, I remembered something strange from my dreams last night. I'm pretty sure I dreamed that I had a lucid dream. Or maybe it actually was lucid, but I don't think so.
Did it end up being fractal?
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #483 on: October 22, 2010, 03:01:23 pm »

Did you ever see your kids again?
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #484 on: October 22, 2010, 03:11:38 pm »

What kids?
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #485 on: October 23, 2010, 01:04:29 am »

You ruined my Inception joke.
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Okay, so, today this girl I know-Lauren, just took a sudden dis-interest in talking to me. Is she just on her period or something?

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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #486 on: October 23, 2010, 01:43:16 pm »

Uhh, i don't understand.

Also, should it be possible for pain achieved in dreams to linger even after fully waking up?
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #487 on: October 23, 2010, 01:55:57 pm »

It happens to some people, it's just a psychosomatic thing though.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #488 on: October 23, 2010, 04:07:57 pm »

I guess I'm some people then...
Does being impaled in the dream seem to bring anything to mind on, well, whatever is to be concerned?
It stopped happening a little while back, so I'm just curious.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #489 on: October 27, 2010, 07:07:59 pm »

I'm sure Dr Freud has some things to say about impaling dreams...
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #490 on: October 27, 2010, 10:20:35 pm »

Hmph. Not much luck with 3mg or 6mg doses of melatonin on days I don't have to get up. It does help me sleep better to an extent, though (something I needed since staying up til 3am doing whatever then having to get up at 6:30 wasn't exactly good for my health). It does seem to help regulating my sleep cycles as well, so no big loss in the "I didn't get the side effect I wanted" department
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #491 on: October 29, 2010, 09:40:56 pm »

Needed something to read to get me through the work day.  Randomly picked this thread and am currently up to page 10.  So envious!

I've never had a lucid dream.  I barely even dream, at least that I can remember.  Sometimes I wake up with some faint emotional residue and rarely some imagery letting me know that I had a dream, but everything is gone within a couple minutes.  Most nights I lay down and wake up and there's just nothing in between.  Nothing.

I've only had a handful of dreams in my entire life that I've been able to remember long-term.  As far as I can tell, I've only ever had two nightmares.  In the few dreams I do remember, everything is always 3rd person like I'm not even in my own mind.  It's like the dream is a tv show with myself as the main character but I'm just watching passively from the outside.  I'm aware of my character's thoughts, but they don't feel like my own.  The only part that I actually experience as if I'm a part of it is the emotions of my character, which are usually very bland.  The me that I am observing in the dream seems to be aware that he's in a dream, and thus has no real emotional reaction to anything.  At the same time, the actual me that is disconnected and just observing the dream, doesn't realize that it's a dream.  Does this make any sense?

I'm also a very very deep sleeper.  It's really hard to wake me up.  I once slept through lightning striking my house.  I have a wife and two kids, and have been conditioned after a few years to wake up if they yell at me, but they're the only noise that can wake me.  Otherwise I need to be continually shaken for a few minutes.  Even after I'm awake, I'm extremely slow to get going.  I feel like all the blood in my body is replaced with glue.

I really hate sleep.  It's like time that just disappears.  Even as a child, my parents could never put me to sleep.  As a toddler, I would just go full speed until I crashed face first into whatever I was doing.  As I got older, I just read books in the dark all night.  As a teenager, I would stay up 2-3 days at a time regularly just for fun, and barely feel any effects.  Can't do that anymore.

I'm heavily introverted so it already feels like I get so little of my life to myself to do with as I please, between work and family.  Then sleep is like this 5-6 hours a night (the most I can force myself to get most nights) that I'm forced to throw into this void of nothingness.  I would probably be more ok with it if I could learn to lucid dream and actually do something with that time.  I've tried some of the tricks like building a habit of counting my fingers and such over the last year or so... but nothing so far.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #492 on: October 29, 2010, 11:30:48 pm »

Well, considering that, you may not be having many dreams at all. You may be staying in stage 4 non-REM all night. And that's really, really bad. If you often find yourself being tired after a full night's sleep, I'd find a sleep clinic.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #493 on: October 30, 2010, 02:04:32 pm »

I've often wondered if I might have a sleep disorder, but have always kind of resented the idea.

First, it's not so much that I'm tired after a full night's sleep.  I'm just really slow to wake up.  When I can, I prefer to sit up in bed for half an hour or so just breathing and getting my eyes open before doing anything.  It takes me an hour or so to feel fully awake, but afterwards I'm not really tired if I've had a good amount of rest.  Between parenting and my natural hatred of sleep, though, I've accumulated a huge sleep debt over the years.  It's rare for me to feel well rested.  Last time I had an opportunity to sleep without restriction and wake up when I felt like it was about two years ago, and I slept 17 hours in one session.  I felt really wierd the next day.

Second, I've always loved the night.  This has been easy for me to rationalize.  I've always been sensitive to sunlight, even as a child when I played outside in the sun every day.  I've also always had a bit of a macabre side too.  I love genuine horror fiction and I've always been gung-ho about facing my fears and dark sides wherever I find them.  Night gives plenty of opportunity to indulge this side of me.  Above all, I grew up the oldest with three younger siblings and I'm very introverted.  So night has always been my time to seek fulfillment as an introvert -- to read books, think, or whatever without interruption.

You've got me wondering though about delayed sleep phase syndrome or non-24-hour sleep-wake syndrome.  At times when I've had no restrictions on my sleep schedule, I'll typically fall into a 36 hour sleep pattern.  I'll stay awake for 24 hours and sleep for 12.  Also, regardless of how tired I've been all day, I get a burst of wakefulness around midnight to 1 am, as if I just took a refreshing nap and have a few hours left in me again.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #494 on: October 30, 2010, 04:37:17 pm »

Yeah, there is a bit of a  Vampire craze right now.
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Okay, so, today this girl I know-Lauren, just took a sudden dis-interest in talking to me. Is she just on her period or something?
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