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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #435 on: September 24, 2010, 03:22:26 pm »

Lil' bit of a necro, but I managed to have the first lucid dream that I remembered in a while. Hell, my first dream that I've remembered in a while, due to an obvious lack of sleep (and my ability to sleep in for once today). I also believe it had something to do with the fact that I'm slightly sick; I tend to have more vivid dreams during those type of days. It was weird; I felt like I was in the dream pre-lucidity for about two hours, get to a place that's obviously not mine, say out loud "This isn't real. This is a dream. Am I lucid?" And look around; everything was frozen. I then proceed to jump through a nearby glass panel (leaving it unharmed) then through a concrete wall (Kool-Aid man style) and fly as high as I could. After about a minute of this, I started to lose control and headed down toward a building, and woke up before the impact.

NEED TO DO THIS MORE. Any supplements that I could possibly try? I've heard some good things about Calea Z, and it seems to be legal in my area, but my biggest problem is finding/obtaining some.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #436 on: September 24, 2010, 03:26:20 pm »

Melatonin seems to help.  Also, like you mentioned, sleeping in.  Wake up early and just go straight back to sleep, I almost always have lucid dreams when I do that.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #437 on: September 26, 2010, 08:59:44 pm »

I don't often forget the dreams I have. If I wake up knowing that I had one in the first place I don't forget it for a while, and I still remember a ton I've had over the past years with a good deal of detail.

Anyway, the first and so far only actual lucid dream I've had was terrible. I was dreaming about the game Super Smash Bros Brawl I'd been playing shortly before going to sleep. I realized that there was something different about the game and went on to realize I was dreaming. I spent what must've literally only been the next five or so minutes I stayed asleep going along with the dream and just enjoying having complete control of the game before the alarm clock woke me up.

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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #438 on: September 27, 2010, 12:55:13 am »

I actually got locked in my dream whilst fully awake a couple of months ago...

Was working away in Scotland, was in the hotel room with my buddy who I was working with. Was about 8/9pm, I decided to meditate whilst he read a book.

After a concentrating on each part of my body, from toes to forehead, and deep breathing, I felt like I was falling back. I recognised this as the feeling I follow to fall asleep, so I thought that I may aswell go to sleep, get up early tomorrow.
Instead, I kept falling and falling, I got dizzier and dizzier. I got worried and decided to break it off. I tried to get up, and I was moving megaslowly. I raised my arm, and it felt really heavy. I was trying to signal to my buddy that I was stuck.
I was in an imaginary version of the hotel room, I was looking around and trying to lift my arm - albeit slowly - whilst I could see my buddy reading his book, flipping the page.
When he did flip the page, it sounded so, so, SO loud! Like a plane wing screeching along the floor at full speed for a moment, echoing.
I nearly panicked, but calmed down. I remembered in movies and such how in hypnosis, they'd count backwards to wake the person up. I declared that counting backwards from 5 would wake me up. I counted backwards, I shot up in a sitting position gasping for air.

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This is a WARNING. After reading this up on the internet, it turns out I entered one of the deepest meditational states. These are difficult to attain and even moreso to wake up from and should not be attempted by the inexperienced.

If I had let myself panic, I might not of woken up. It's happened; people going into meditation and not waking up.

But, on the other hand, using this deepest state, you can travel back into previous lives and have out-of-body experiences - which is probably what I was having by looking around in my mind.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #439 on: September 27, 2010, 05:48:57 am »

This reminding me that I wanted to have another lucid dream, I tried to have a WILD last night and could tell I got pretty close; I had that sleep paralysis feeling and was starting to get some pretty vivid imagery. Pretty satisfied, I decided to just go off to sleep for the night. I woke up at 5:30 and realized I had woken up in the middle of a dream that was starting to get bizarre (I had something like an evil twin brother, then all of a sudden it was a sister, etc. All the while I was on a sidewalk during the day beside what must've been a busy road but there were no cars except a taxi cab pulled over by me.) and thought it might be a good opportunity to try and get into a MILD; I'm not necessarily in a situation where I could set my alarm. So I was going back to sleep trying to get dreaming. I know I remained conscious throughout because I can still remember some of the images I was starting to see, but an hour passed in what felt like a few minutes and my mother got up and started making a crapload of noise. I did and am still having a really funny dreamlike feeling though; for several minutes I was having a hard time convincing myself I was awake. And I still won't necessarily be too surprised if I look later and I never made this post. It creeped me out because I looked at the alarm clock and saw 6:30, turned my head away and looked again and it said 6:31. Said to myself "Heh, what a coincidence" and did it quickly a third time and it said 6:32. No lengthy texts or mirrors are screwing me over yet, though.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #440 on: September 27, 2010, 09:06:27 am »

Welp, either you made this post for reals or I am dreaming... nope, can't make giant spike of rock shoot out of the floor. Looks like we're both awake.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #441 on: September 27, 2010, 10:31:20 am »

This is a WARNING. After reading this up on the internet, it turns out I entered one of the deepest meditational states. These are difficult to attain and even moreso to wake up from and should not be attempted by the inexperienced.
Such meditative states only hurt you as much as you allow them. Sure, panicking is bad in any situation where you could be in an altered state of mind, but it's not like your body and mind are just a computer that you can pull the plug on while meditating. Unless you cause your brain to hemorrhage or something, you're in no danger unless you think you are. Even then, the body and mind have some safeguards against people being stupid/inexperienced.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #442 on: September 27, 2010, 11:07:21 am »

I actually got locked in my dream whilst fully awake a couple of months ago...

Was working away in Scotland, was in the hotel room with my buddy who I was working with. Was about 8/9pm, I decided to meditate whilst he read a book.

After a concentrating on each part of my body, from toes to forehead, and deep breathing, I felt like I was falling back. I recognised this as the feeling I follow to fall asleep, so I thought that I may aswell go to sleep, get up early tomorrow.
Instead, I kept falling and falling, I got dizzier and dizzier. I got worried and decided to break it off. I tried to get up, and I was moving megaslowly. I raised my arm, and it felt really heavy. I was trying to signal to my buddy that I was stuck.
I was in an imaginary version of the hotel room, I was looking around and trying to lift my arm - albeit slowly - whilst I could see my buddy reading his book, flipping the page.
When he did flip the page, it sounded so, so, SO loud! Like a plane wing screeching along the floor at full speed for a moment, echoing.
I nearly panicked, but calmed down. I remembered in movies and such how in hypnosis, they'd count backwards to wake the person up. I declared that counting backwards from 5 would wake me up. I counted backwards, I shot up in a sitting position gasping for air.

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This is a WARNING. After reading this up on the internet, it turns out I entered one of the deepest meditational states. These are difficult to attain and even moreso to wake up from and should not be attempted by the inexperienced.

If I had let myself panic, I might not of woken up. It's happened; people going into meditation and not waking up.

But, on the other hand, using this deepest state, you can travel back into previous lives and have out-of-body experiences - which is probably what I was having by looking around in my mind.

I have had this several times, usually after LD chaining. I just thought it was a weird LD, so I didn't panic or anything, and it went away after a few minutes. The most recent time this happened, I 'rolled' out of my body and into a dream version of my room. It was pretty cool.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #443 on: September 27, 2010, 11:11:44 am »

I have had this several times, usually after LD chaining. I just thought it was a weird LD, so I didn't panic or anything, and it went away after a few minutes. The most recent time this happened, I 'rolled' out of my body and into a dream version of my room. It was pretty cool.
Sounds like an out of body experience, something confused fairly often with lucid dreaming, but they are two different things. There's alot of information out there about it; everything from scientific 'facts' to quasi-mystical fluff, but only you can determine what it is for you. Vague, I know, but the internet is a crappy resource.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #444 on: September 27, 2010, 11:14:55 am »

sounds like sleep paralysis awareness, rather
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #445 on: September 27, 2010, 11:17:03 am »

I have had this several times, usually after LD chaining. I just thought it was a weird LD, so I didn't panic or anything, and it went away after a few minutes. The most recent time this happened, I 'rolled' out of my body and into a dream version of my room. It was pretty cool.
Sounds like an out of body experience, something confused fairly often with lucid dreaming, but they are two different things. There's alot of information out there about it; everything from scientific 'facts' to quasi-mystical fluff, but only you can determine what it is for you. Vague, I know, but the internet is a crappy resource.
Yeah, I figured that's what it was called but I don't see how it's any different from a lucid dream. In a lucid dream where anything can happen, it's not a huge jump to go from that to a recreated version of my room. I have false awakenings all the time, and they're only dreams. I don't see the need for people attribute it as some mystical experience.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #446 on: September 27, 2010, 11:18:51 am »

That's the obvious explanation I overlooked, and probably the most logical. :(

Sleep paralysis is pretty common, and can have some extremely weird effects. Like sounds being too loud, not being able to move (or limbs being extremely heavy), hearing whispers/voices/sounds that have no other origin than from your own head.

The whole 'rolling out of your body' part led me to believe it was more OBE/Dreamish in Lear's case. Azkanan's simply overreacting with his Google searching.
Yeah, I figured that's what it was called but I don't see how it's any different from a lucid dream. In a lucid dream where anything can happen, it's not a huge jump to go from that to a recreated version of my room. I have false awakenings all the time, and they're only dreams. I don't see the need for people attribute it as some mystical experience.
There do tend to be some differences; generally, you don't see yourself dreaming while in a dream, and you don't have the same sort of control you would in a dream as you would in an OBE. There also are some discrepencies in memory, while lucid dreams report the experience as, well, dreamlike, as in details not being completely there or everything being relatively fuzzy, OBEs can be extremely sharp and detailed, more akin to real life. Again, it's subject to personal experience.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #447 on: September 27, 2010, 12:47:12 pm »

sounds like sleep paralysis awareness, rather

Yep. Happens to me at least 3 nights a week, if I'm well rested. If it happens once in a night it will happen repeatedly until I wake up. It's very frustrating. If you keep getting stuck by it, all you have to do is calm down and go back to sleep. Dream again. Then you can wake up directly from the dream instead of from the sleep paralysis.

It usually happens if it's light outside, and I'm pretty sure that your eyes are open at that stage, because you can generally see everything in front of you perfectly.

I remember the first it happened to me, I thought I was awake, and I wanted some more water. I saw the glass about a third of the way full in front of me(I was sleeping on the couch), and I couldn't reach for it. It freaked me out so I called to my mom to have her help me. Then I just kinda mumbled weakly instead of yelling and that REALLY freaked me out so I started just yelling as loud as possible and eventually that woke me up. When I woke up, the glass was indeed right in front of me, and I realized that I was the only one home.

Sleep paralysis awareness can give you some very weird dreams immediately before or after. And it always scares the shit out of me. I've had she-demons float through my walls where I'm looking at start tearing shit out of my chest, all the while I couldn't move, etc.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #448 on: September 27, 2010, 12:58:43 pm »

sounds like sleep paralysis awareness, rather

Yep. Happens to me at least 3 nights a week, if I'm well rested. If it happens once in a night it will happen repeatedly until I wake up. It's very frustrating. If you keep getting stuck by it, all you have to do is calm down and go back to sleep. Dream again. Then you can wake up directly from the dream instead of from the sleep paralysis.

It usually happens if it's light outside, and I'm pretty sure that your eyes are open at that stage, because you can generally see everything in front of you perfectly.

I remember the first it happened to me, I thought I was awake, and I wanted some more water. I saw the glass about a third of the way full in front of me(I was sleeping on the couch), and I couldn't reach for it. It freaked me out so I called to my mom to have her help me. Then I just kinda mumbled weakly instead of yelling and that REALLY freaked me out so I started just yelling as loud as possible and eventually that woke me up. When I woke up, the glass was indeed right in front of me, and I realized that I was the only one home.

Sleep paralysis awareness can give you some very weird dreams immediately before or after. And it always scares the shit out of me. I've had she-demons float through my walls where I'm looking at start tearing shit out of my chest, all the while I couldn't move, etc.

In my SPs, there always used be a scary bitch standing in my room. I couldnt see her, but I still knew shes there. It really added to the discomfort of being unable to move.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #449 on: September 27, 2010, 01:06:56 pm »

The first time I had it I was simply unable to move, without hallucinations. I panicked because I wondered if I had suffered an embolia while asleep and was thus a vegetable.

The second time I hallucinated that a cute girl from my class sat in the chair besides my bed, and started spouting some stuff about Mao. It was an improvement.
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