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[Byakugan01]

Isn't it strange that elves lead the squads of monstrous, tree burning, tower-building goblins against the peaceful underground metalworking dwarves? Unless they're mounted on unicorns, you would mistake them for bigger goblins in that case...

Not always. Once, only humans led the goblins, and another time it was dwarves. Typically, I get the dwarves doing that...

[Fedor]

I confess to liking DF elves.  I've seen them come with berries and fruit juice to save a staving fort, seen them truck in sparring weapons, exotic animals for my menagerie, and wood I can't get anywhere else.  They're the sun berry providers.  In short, elves go on my "will give a fat profit so they bring more next time" list.

Speaking as a player, I'm also pretty cool with negotiating wood-chopping restrictions.  Some will laugh and wonder, but seriously I've never deliberately broken a wood-chopping agreement yet.  Adds fun to the game, IMO.  My only beef, and the only reason that I'd ever be likely to violate or refuse a limit, is that it includes the tower-caps I'm farming on a magma-less map.

I have dreams of allying with the elves and giving the evil races a hard way to go in the next version.  They chip in the fire support and the skirmishers, I contribute the heavy infantry.

I also dream of hiring elves to be gardeners.  I want to be able to grow flowers, ornamental trees, etc..

[Argonnek]

The Elves are okay, I usually buy their cloth to make "ethical" crafts to resell to them the next year, which is fairly profitable. I also have a question for everyone: Which would you rather have in your fort, Elves or Nobles?

[LegoLord]

Nobles.  Those don't cause trouble unless they have impossible preferences (likes crystal glass!).  Elves though, they are far more likely to cause trouble.

[Byakugan01]

Nobles.  Those don't cause trouble unless they have impossible preferences (likes crystal glass!).  Elves though, they are far more likely to cause trouble.

Haven't had an adamantine loving countess yet, have you? Or adamantite loving one? On a map right by the ocean? Or in the middle of a armok-forsaken desert? Your opinion would change dramatically when you have to choose between activating the fortress guard to contain a growing tantrum spiral and consequently activating the hammerer on all those impossible mandates for adamantine stuff, or loosing the fort. I would take elves over any noble save the philosopher (maybe still him), the dungeon master or the king.

[LegoLord]

Nobles.  Those don't cause trouble unless they have impossible preferences (likes crystal glass!).  Elves though, they are far more likely to cause trouble.

Haven't had an adamantine loving countess yet, have you? Or adamantite loving one? On a map right by the ocean? Or in the middle of a armok-forsaken desert?

Yes, I have.  He died.  It was a horrible accident.  Fell off of a cliff.  Got a new one.  Didn't cause trouble.  So he had no accidents.

[ac31]

Nobles.  Those don't cause trouble unless they have impossible preferences (likes crystal glass!).  Elves though, they are far more likely to cause trouble.

Haven't had an adamantine loving countess yet, have you? Or adamantite loving one? On a map right by the ocean? Or in the middle of a armok-forsaken desert?

Yes, I have.  He died.  It was a horrible accident.  Fell off of a cliff.  Got a new one.  Didn't cause trouble.  So he had no accidents.

wow, accidents like those are all too common in the modern age

why just yesterday a dwarven caravan came to my fortress which was rapidly running out of clothes, the floodgates malfunctioned and repeatedly drowned them all, it was tragic

[The Mad Engineer]

bumbuddies,

Hey, plastic dildos are BAD for the environment! Go wood!


Also, for your consideration,


Elf + Dwarf = Human.

Therefore, our origins are the stuff of nightmares.

[Sensei]

...and repeatedly drowned them all, it was tragic

Huh. How does THAT work?

[ein]

...and repeatedly drowned them all, it was tragic

Huh. How does THAT work?

Urist McLever: *pulls lever, water floods in*
Time passes... some of the caravan people drown
Urist McLever: I think they're dead *pulls lever, water floods out*
Caravan: Thank you so much for solving that problem! We were about to drown.
Urist McLever: *pulls lever, water floods in*
Caravan people drown

[Grimlocke]

...and repeatedly drowned them all, it was tragic

Huh. How does THAT work?

Next years caravan I guess. (or that of guy above, I shouldnt take so long typing things  )

Anyways, on the topic of elf appreciation, I lately embarked on a forrest retreat to test the cannibalistic abilities of my custom civ, and saw that on embark a pack of disgustingly mirthfull unicorns were cheerfully frolocking about. Soon after I proceeded to charge my freshly drafted army of 7 at the vile creatures, I found the elfs joining my guys in the slaughter! I appreciated the elfs finaly showing some sense but succesfully concluded my test with a small elf tallow soap shrine nontheless.

[Sensei]

Interestingly, I've noticed that elves in adventure mode will not attack animals unless an animal attacks, not you, but one of your allies. That being a human/goblin/dwarf/whatever ally of course, since the elves are not attacked by the animals.

[IndonesiaWarMinister]

Now now...
If only we could have city-living elves... Would take them over their Woody, savage, cannibalistic breathens.
On a sad note, I play with U U U U. yeah.

Sorry, but my beard is only chest-high

[Bloogonis]

Elf - Normal - Treehugging peace keepers, in many of my worlds they have a tendency to kill and eat demons.

Elf - Conquered by Goblins - brutal headhunters adorned in Goblin bone jewelry and goblin leather armor, and leggings of a large predator.

Elf - Conqured by Humans - pretty much human with pointy ears, they sometimes eat other humans nearby.

Elf - Conquered by Dwarfs - similar to the Human version, they tend to like minerals.

I always dread the Elf Local Leader Elitebowelf of Goblins with max agility. The meat shield of Iron clad speargoblins makes them 4 times as deadly.

[Sensei]

Now now...
If only we could have city-living elves... Would take them over their Woody, savage, cannibalistic breathens.
On a sad note, I play with U U U U. yeah.

Sorry, but my beard is only chest-high

This would be easier to do than you think. Very easy, in fact. You could make them found and live in cities, and attack and win against normal elves by making them hate all creatures that eat sapients and have good weapons. If you go the extra mile, you can even make them engrave porn. Now, mind, I'M not going to draw a naked elf in ASCII... but you could actually do that in an engraving. Actually, don't.

So, city elves... who makes them, me or someone else? (inb4 "someone else who will draw the elf porn).