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[Calvin]

don't ask me who the girl is
We need one of these.

Don't you always hate it when your food stockpile gets full of barrels, taking up space. Eventually, also, it seems reasonable to just make separate stockpiles. But if we had this, it would be like a 3x3 buildable made from wood. How it would work, is that once you've built it, your dwarves will go and fill up the cask. The cask could probably fit, hmm, 100 units of booze. Not only would it save room, but it would probably save wood. Plus, imagine your dwarven cellar just aisled with wine casks. And it would be reasonable to put them in a bar.

Generally, in a nutshell, a giant wine barrel that holds a lot of wine.

[Kanil]

Then a tantruming dwarf could break it and flood the booze stockpile!

(who's the girl?)

[Calvin]

Then a tantruming dwarf could break it and flood the booze stockpile!

Wouldn't that be good?

Not the tantrumming dwarf, I mean your new 4/7 booze swimming pool.

[Fossaman]

I'd bump the quantity up by a few-fold; if you're using outdoor farming you could get up to 35 or 40 in a barrel (not sure on the exact numbers, but stacks of seven at least), and 25 in a barrel is pretty normal. So that's anywhere from 225-300 or more in a 3x3 area with barrels. So at least 300 to 500 for the cask, please.

[SirHoneyBadger]

I wonder if someday we'll see items like casks, etc. be greatly expandable--so that if you want a giant cask, you could just order one. Seems like it would be a good feature to have, and possibly not terribly difficult to implement.

[Derakon]

Perhaps you could assign sizes to the barrels you make, which would scale the amount of wood required to make them. Small barrels have a maximum capacity of 5 units and use half a unit of wood (or whatever), normal 10 and one unit, large 20 and two, and so on until you're making a gargantuan barrel that can hold 100 drinks and a diving board and requires upsetting 2.5 elves to make.

This doesn't address the number of tiles required to hold that huge barrel, but otherwise I think it's a more extensible approach; you could do the same thing with bins, bags, backpacks, quivers, water flasks, and anything else that can be used as a container.

[chucks]

I actually think that something like these two is more feasible.




Have a shelf or rack that can hold multiple bins in one tile (say 5-10 barrels or bins).

[alfie275]

Already suggested, combining this with a pipe system would allow for vast storage and easy access, as long as you don' spring a leak from shody pipes...

Cog:"RUN! RUN! The beer is flooding the fortress!"
Urist:"AHHHH! FLOOD! Wait beer? Hmm.. Never fear Urist is here!"
Urist: *drinks beer*

[Calvin]

Already suggested, combining this with a pipe system would allow for vast storage and easy access, as long as you don' spring a leak from shody pipes...

Cog:"RUN! RUN! The beer is flooding the fortress!"
Urist:"AHHHH! FLOOD! Wait beer? Hmm.. Never fear Urist is here!"
Urist: *drinks beer*

It's all fun and games until a fire imp steps inside your beer flooded fortress.

[Luke_Prowler]

Giant casks/kegs/whathaveyous are a pretty common suggestions, one that most people accept with open arms. I approve, but we should be able to build cellars first so that all that good beer doesn't spoil (plus, the image of abbey style brewerys make me drool).

[SirHoneyBadger]

Me too, Luke_Prowler. I brew my own beer (infact, I brewed 2 gallons the night before last, and I have a thread about brewing under Creative Projects), so I'd love to have cellars in the game--not just for beer, but also for cheese and shrooms, and just the general storage of foodstuffs.

I think it would be interesting if brewing alchohol had temperature requirements, so that if the brew got too hot, it would start to become very mildly poisonous (or atleast affect the quality), and if it was too cold, it would just take longer to brew into beer. Time requirements would be nice, too, considering that alchohol is so exploitable in the game right now.

There's a lot that could be done to make brewing more interesting in the game.

[Calvin]

It's also interesting how my dwarves bring a plump helmet into the still, and in the next milisecond, comes out with a barrel full of wine.

Either he has his booze pot heated up to a kagillion degrees, or he has some kind of super power, I think it would atleast take a few minutes.

[The Scout]

It will take 1.5 years to make a bottle of wine and the workshop can't be used during that time.

[Derakon]

More likely, stills will eventually work basically like farms currently do: you designate an area for alcohol storage, and the workshop automatically generates tasks depending on the status of items in that area. You'd tell the brewer to fill the storage with alcohol derived from a specific plant; he'd generate the initial liquid, and as the drinks age, he might perform maintenance (depending on the booze type; boozes that require maintenance would go off if they don't get it, like unharvested plants wither). Eventually the booze is ready to be "harvested" from storage, at which point it can be drunk.

[detinith]

Rather than huge casks or furniture that compacts barrels, why not steel kegs that hold more liquid, weigh much more, but still only take up one tile? Maybe even make kegs install-able and designate to meeting halls or a whole new room (tavern)?