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[Psyco Jelly]

Nickelback is a terrible band, don't feel the need to classify them.  There's a reason we don't have an identification for every bit of dirt on the ground.

Give me a minute...

[The Willow Wisp]

Nickelback is a terrible band, don't feel the need to classify them.  There's a reason we don't have an identification for every bit of dirt on the ground.

I happen to like Nickelback. By the way, didn't I ask everyone not to be rude about other people's choice in bands? You are entitled to your opinion but please don't say a band is terrible or an abomination. I have a phobia of this thread becoming one big argument over whether a band sucks/rocks. I mean, personally, I despise the Beatles; but I didn't mention it or say they suck when Muz or Mr TK mentioned them. So please, be respectful.

[A_Fey_Dwarf]

I am more of a passive listener to music, let it run in the background I say. Thus most of the angrier metal I don't find all that enjoyable. But some of the more instrumental tracks I do enjoy. Bands with long riffs and intros, i.e. Dream Theater fit nicely into that category. Anyone got any other suggestions of bands to try?

[Neonivek]

personally, I despise the Beatles

I can see it. Many of their songs pretty much stayed a float with the power of popularity.

Though I like to use the example of "Yellow Submarine" apperantly my Brother says both the fans and the Beatles themselves said that song was horrible.

[The Willow Wisp]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's not get into a discussion about the Beatles. I don't want to talk about them and this seems like it will go right back to the thing I was trying to prevent. We are pretty far from that point but lets not move any closer towards it.

[ein]

Yeah, let's not derail the topic.
The Beatles aren't metal.
This topic is about metal.
Thus, only talk about them if it has something to do with metal.

[Vicomt]

You can't classify them.

The best you'll be able to do is "tag" them with stylistic labels, and even then you'd probably have to do it on a track by track (sometimes album by album) basis.

best thing I've found is last.fm, users apply tags to tracks/albums/bands and you can search on them, or get recommendations based on music you've been listening to.

recently, i've been plumbing the depths of aggrotech, darkwave, ebm, thrashcore, trashcore, grindcore, poodle rock, powernoise and synth rock

[Areyar]

I am more of a passive listener to music, let it run in the background I say. Thus most of the angrier metal I don't find all that enjoyable. But some of the more instrumental tracks I do enjoy. Bands with long riffs and intros, i.e. Dream Theater fit nicely into that category. Anyone got any other suggestions of bands to try?

deep purple? (hard rock, I think. Some excessively long drumsolos, shuffle with something other for prolonged enjoyment)
Yes? (metal, very highpitched vocals, can become annoying)
Danzig? (heavy metal)
Motorhead? (hardrock)
(I'll keep tracking this thread for suggestions others may contribute. )

My definitions:
rock is classic pop with drum, guitar, keys and vocals are the prime focus.
hard rock is same but faster, lower in key and generally angrier.
metal is fastpaced hardrock dominated by highpitched guitars,
heavymetal is dominated by bass guitar,
deathmetal is dominated by a grunting leadsinger.

These kind of classifications are usefull for deciding what to compare with maybe, but for selecting music in the store, still asking the clerk is best (a knowledgable shopkeep in a specialty record store, not a dumbshit highschool dropout at a chain-store).

[The Willow Wisp]

Motorhead? (hardrock)

Motorhead is one of the original Metal bands. I see how you came to the hard rock conclusion though.

metal is fastpaced hardrock dominated by highpitched guitars,

By the way, Metal isn't always fastpaced and high pitched. Black Sabbath was the original metal band and they had a heavier much slower tone than I would consider fast paced. But I guess your version of Metal and Mine might be Radically different.

[Virex]

For fun, try figuring out what Manowar is

[Muz]

Oh, yeah, and don't criticize other bands. I don't like some of the bands I mentioned either, but didn't mention that

If you push heavy metal a bit further, it turns into Grunge.

Wait? What? So Rock N Roll -> Rock -> Hard Rock -> Metal -> Heavy Metal -> Grunge!

I'll admit that people like Kurt Cobain listened to White Zombie and other heavy metal bands but to try and label Grunge as a type of metal!? Grunge is more likely seen as a rock sub-genre like alternative rock.

I meant to say that grunge was heavier than metal, but not metal. It's sort of like what happens when you put heavy metal in a lead bin and put it in magma. Anyway, grunge isn't only Kurt Cobain. There's other instruments, which give it that dirty, heavy sound.

[SolarShado]

I found Ctulu(SP, sry) calling Linkin Park an "abomination" abso-f***kin-lutely HILARIOUS! I think I laughed for a solid minute...

I could never file Korn and Disturbed together... I'll concede they're both Metal, but catagory that includes Black Sabbath, too.

IME most metal is fast-paced. But Sabbath's metal, and mostly slow-ish. (Iron Man/War Pigs FTW!) Disturbed has some fairly slow ones too.

[Hawkfrost]

I am more of a passive listener to music, let it run in the background I say. Thus most of the angrier metal I don't find all that enjoyable. But some of the more instrumental tracks I do enjoy. Bands with long riffs and intros, i.e. Dream Theater fit nicely into that category. Anyone got any other suggestions of bands to try?

Opeth, in my opinion better than Dream Theater.

Wow, it is surprising how many people like Disturbed here.

[Gunner-Chan]

Wow, it is surprising how many people like Disturbed here.

I actually like them too, even though I am a bit embarrassed to admit it.

Land of confusion cover = awesome.

[Fishersalwaysdie]

Bah, Korn and Disturbed and all the other shit are just anger menagement tools, people only like it because it's full of yelling and complains about a hard relationship or other social situations that provoke an angry emotion.
That's not metal

It might mix up gayer sides of punk and death growls and other stylistic things in an effort to mix up the "best of both worlds", underneath all the appeareance it will just be mediocre rock music that looks unappealing to anyone who isn't braindead.
That is not metal

Dragonforce and Opeth and Meshugah just make "technical" music to imitate Helstar, Atheist or Gorguts. It's just badly done death metal or power metal with ornaments to disguise complete lack of songwritting skill.
That's hardly metal

They could copy Norweign classics of yore without any of the spirit, they might be Cannibal Corpse with their second rate death metal selling out the once treasured genre, or maybe Pantera with grooves making up for substance.
Unfortunately, that is metal, although it's completely moronic.

What metal is, can be felt if you actually follow the music, it's the feel of it. Not as in, the sound of blastbeats, or distorted guitars. It's there in Sabbath, there in Maiden, there in Witchfinder, Morbid Angel, Carcass, Demilich, Hellhammer, Blind Guardian, Darkthrone and Sacramentum.
And no, the difference among them is not just aesthetic, as in types of vocals. The songwritting, and the phrasing are different, but they all hold a spirit that none of these newer bands have. So in conclusion, you ruined metal, go get AIDS.