Sorry guys, looks like you're going to get an extended day for a bit. I ended up in the hospital yesterday with some funky migraine thing that messed with my brain so bad I didn't even know who the president was.
Sorry to hear that, hopefully you feel better soon, Migraines suck.
On the other hand, I'm at least vaguely glad that the day isn't going to end in three hours. More questions need to be asked, and answered. A theory is growing.
No, Rysith. I am town. Losing me would be bad, The only information you gain is trusting CJ and a list of suspicious bandwagoners voting for me. Then the scum will be one step closer to winning. If we lynch Frelock we have pretty much won as town. We need to do this. Frelock has been much more scummy then I. Lurching, no voting, and trying to avoid unnecessary attention. I on the other had have been reasonably active, helping the town as much as I could.
Trusting CJ is quite important, if it could be done. CJ has amazing power to organize the town if he's trusted, and if I could trust him I'd gladly put my powers at his disposal. It's just the whole not trusting him right now thing that is getting in the way. I'll admit that you are much more active than Frelock, but I could definitely see this group of dopps laying the groundwork early for a false town base.
Alright, I WANT TO KNOW how, if AFD and I were dopps, we'd pull off a scheme as elaborate as claiming telepath and enchanter and not get caught rightaway?
And, of course Nuke, you're wrong. If Frelock is a human, Rysith can use his warden powers on me to disable my powers for the day, and so I wouldn't get a double vote. Your scenario isn't possible.
I expected you to be my compatriot in my fight Nuke. Would I really lie so blatantly to try and get someone lynched? I'm certain that I'm correct Nuke.
As far as I can tell, the town has no investigative roles whatsoever. Certainly none have come forward, and the closest we have come is a possible medium and a possible telepath. That would let you pull that combo off fairly easily.
And it's true, I could shut you down tomorrow if you're a dopp. I've done it before ;-). But, there is a case that that would fail:
We kill Frelock today. Frelock flips town, much to everyone's dismay, including yours. You are town, just incorrect with your guess. I shut you down, assuming you are a dopp. Another townie dies in the night, and we're at 4 town, 3 dopps, no enchanter. I suspect you of being a dopp, and in fact many people probably do. Dopps get your lynch through with town support, and town loses. Of course, it's even worse if you are actually a dopp, since I suspect that that means I'm dead, and can't lock you down for subsequent days.
Contrast that to if we lynch AFD. If AFD flips dopp, the town is significantly ahead. If AFD flips town, we know that he wasn't lying about your goal being survival, and we can trust you. A town base emerges, I lock down a dopp, and there is suddenly a pro-town voting block with an enchanter. I'd much rather take a choice of "town base with trusted lead or dopp kill" than "dopp kill or town loss".
There is a bit of information that would make everything fall nicely in to place, which I'm working on getting right now. It's nicely verifiable too, which is a definite plus. More details if that goes through.
Pre-Pre-post edit: Nuke's right, if pandar hadn't backstabbed the dopps they would be in a position to win. However, I'm pretty sure that pandar had to kill a dopp that night, to prevent the scenario that Nuke presented (a loss for him), and fairly sure that the dopps had to kill him that night (to prevent him from continuing to kill them).
chaoticjosh is right that my presence could make it a bit thorny now, but Nuke's analysis relies on all town players being active. I don't see that happening, and would like to avoid playing it that close if possible.
Pre-post edit:
Gah people, stop posting so fast!
I think that it's a reasonable plan on the dopp's part, especially the part where dopp-chaoticjosh (in hypothetical-land) gets me lynched today so I can't roleblock him tonight. But, they had already committed to the plan before I managed to stop being a viable target, and couldn't back out. I would rather cling to a reasonable theory than trust a potential dopp not to make the town lose the game.