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[webadict]

That reminds me. Meph, you said we have 5 Doppelgangers and up to 5 aliens. For the Doppelganger win condition to trigger, do they need to only outnumber townies or do they need to outnumber townies+aliens?

To win the dopps must equal or outnumber all town + any Non-Survivor Aliens, and there cannot be an Exterminator in play.

Actually, with the Dopps outnumbering the Town + all aliens regardless of Exterminatorness, the Dopps can still win by voing for people one at a time and killing at night, as opposed to the Exterminator, who can only kill at night. Therefore, at a higher number of Dopps, the Dopps automatically win. So, it'd be pointless to bother. Now if there were a AWV and Exterminator...

A_Fey_Dwarf, I believe, is right. Twiggie seems very newbish (VERY). I highly doubt him to be a Doppelganger.

However, you forget that Mr.Person was not the only one to say such things. I forget who and I'm too tired to bother to look (inaluct?), but someone also said win-win. It's not quite so wrong in its reasoning (But, we can only use the data before the point where this was said, as after that, the data is biased.)

Therefore, we can glean some things from this, or we could probably go with not lynching Twiggie. I'm still set on inaluct, but I'm not at all positive it's him.

I'd like a post count. I'd do it myself, but I'm really tired and work tomorrow. So meh. I'll think some more tomorrow. Good night.

[TheToeBighter98]

When have I not ever been strange? SENSITIVE.

[Cheeetar]

Twiggie, if you are town: It may seem obvious to you that you are town, because YOU know, but we don't. We have no way of knowing, except if we check you. However, since we have a limited amount of time, some lynches have to be made based on how suspicious a person seems. You seem suspicious because you are acting rather confused, but you should not be confused having had played a mafia game before. Thus, people think you are acting confused as an excuse to play badly and not benefit the town very much.
I don't think you can save yourself now, but next game you could try not being/acting so confused.

[NUKE9.13]

well, be sure to ALL VOTE NUKE when it turns out im not a dopp

how is it win-win? i dont even have a killing role. for all you know you could be losing the doctor. which im not, i woulda claimed earlier(OR WOULD I?), but im not a killer and im not vanilla so the way i see it its kinda a loss...

no doubt you will somehow rationalise it though...

More people saying I'll be suspicious if Twiggie flips town

Right.
Because my motives are not rationalised in any way. Come on! Twiggie has made with the suspicious behaviour the whole game! If he flips town, then he has learnt an important lesson: Don't act so suspicious! Understand what you are playing, think about what people say and then respond to it with a sensible reply! I remember my first mafia game. I sucked! (I got the cop lynched) But I think I brought my game up to a reasonable level quickly enough. It's just a matter of trying.
I am a good and noble honest orleaner. I would feel bad if Twiggie turns up town, but if he does, then please, do not lynch me blindly. If he turns up town, check me (if you have no one better to check (Which, seeing as I would be suspicious, might be hard)- Then we can have a town base, huzzah!

[Pandarsenic]

That reminds me. Meph, you said we have 5 Doppelgangers and up to 5 aliens. For the Doppelganger win condition to trigger, do they need to only outnumber townies or do they need to outnumber townies+aliens?

To win the dopps must equal or outnumber all town + any Non-Survivor Aliens, and there cannot be an Exterminator in play.

Actually, with the Dopps outnumbering the Town + all aliens regardless of Exterminatorness, the Dopps can still win by voing for people one at a time and killing at night, as opposed to the Exterminator, who can only kill at night. Therefore, at a higher number of Dopps, the Dopps automatically win. So, it'd be pointless to bother. Now if there were a AWV and Exterminator...

Actually, if the Exterminator is last targeted and he faces 2 Dopps alone, he can win... if he has a Deadman Bomb.

[Pandarsenic]

well, be sure to ALL VOTE NUKE when it turns out im not a dopp

how is it win-win? i dont even have a killing role. for all you know you could be losing the doctor. which im not, i woulda claimed earlier(OR WOULD I?), but im not a killer and im not vanilla so the way i see it its kinda a loss...

no doubt you will somehow rationalise it though...

More people saying I'll be suspicious if Twiggie flips town

Right.
Because my motives are not rationalised in any way. Come on! Twiggie has made with the suspicious behaviour the whole game! If he flips town, then he has learnt an important lesson: Don't act so suspicious! Understand what you are playing, think about what people say and then respond to it with a sensible reply! I remember my first mafia game. I sucked! (I got the cop lynched) But I think I brought my game up to a reasonable level quickly enough. It's just a matter of trying.
I am a good and noble honest orleaner. I would feel bad if Twiggie turns up town, but if he does, then please, do not lynch me blindly. If he turns up town, check me (if you have no one better to check (Which, seeing as I would be suspicious, might be hard)- Then we can have a town base, huzzah!

Also, guys, I think we found a Dopp Leader.

[A_Fey_Dwarf]

What I suggest is that only the telepath (if there is one), target Nuke tonight if/when Twiggie role flips town base. The telepath will still receive killer if Nuke is Dopp leader.

[Archangel]

This isn't much, but I don't remember Frelock or Rysith posting at all.

[NUKE9.13]

What I suggest is that only the telepath (if there is one), target Nuke tonight if/when Twiggie role flips town base. The telepath will still receive killer if Nuke is Dopp leader.

Not if I'm a power role dopp!
But yeah, it is tricky.
I think Twiggie will flip dopp though, so it shouldn't be an issue.

Bla bla bla if twiggie flips town plz check me if possible

Also, guys, I think we found a Dopp Leader.

This I find mildly suspicious. You assume twiggie will flip town, almost as if you know who's town and who's not...

[Pandarsenic]

What I suggest is that only the telepath (if there is one), target Nuke tonight if/when Twiggie role flips town base. The telepath will still receive killer if Nuke is Dopp leader.

Not if I'm a power role dopp!
But yeah, it is tricky.
I think Twiggie will flip dopp though, so it shouldn't be an issue.

Bla bla bla if twiggie flips town plz check me if possible

Also, guys, I think we found a Dopp Leader.

This I find mildly suspicious. You assume twiggie will flip town, almost as if you know who's town and who's not...

You're kind of in a no-win situation with me, Nuke, I'm going to be honest. If he flips Dopp, I'm likely to think you bussed him; if he flips town, I'm pretty sure you're a Dopp leader.

Such a flimsy counteraccusation is also scummy; I don't know how he'll flip, but the fact that you want to be checked makes me suspicious - it's the mistake I made when I was the Dopp Leader.

Indeed, if YOU knew he would flip town and were Dopp leader, that would be an ideal request to make.

So, until you stop acting like scum, I'll think you are. We'll see when Twiggie flips, though.

[webadict]

This isn't much, but I don't remember Frelock or Rysith posting at all.

Rysith posted once. I don't believe Frelock has posted at all. Quite odd, given the time he could've voted or even posted.

[NUKE9.13]

You're kind of in a no-win situation with me, Nuke, I'm going to be honest. If he flips Dopp, I'm likely to think you bussed him; if he flips town, I'm pretty sure you're a Dopp leader.
Such a flimsy counteraccusation is also scummy; I don't know how he'll flip, but the fact that you want to be checked makes me suspicious - it's the mistake I made when I was the Dopp Leader.
Indeed, if YOU knew he would flip town and were Dopp leader, that would be an ideal request to make.
So, until you stop acting like scum, I'll think you are. We'll see when Twiggie flips, though.

I bussed him? Man, that is crazy. If I wanted to bus him I would not be so blatant about it; keep him alive one day, then kill him the next. Not this lynching on the first day stuff.
I am sorry that you find my actions suspicious. Maybe if my name was webadict I could get away with it?

[Org]

You're kind of in a no-win situation with me, Nuke, I'm going to be honest. If he flips Dopp, I'm likely to think you bussed him; if he flips town, I'm pretty sure you're a Dopp leader.
Such a flimsy counteraccusation is also scummy; I don't know how he'll flip, but the fact that you want to be checked makes me suspicious - it's the mistake I made when I was the Dopp Leader.
Indeed, if YOU knew he would flip town and were Dopp leader, that would be an ideal request to make.
So, until you stop acting like scum, I'll think you are. We'll see when Twiggie flips, though.

I bussed him? Man, that is crazy. If I wanted to bus him I would not be so blatant about it; keep him alive one day, then kill him the next. Not this lynching on the first day stuff.
I am sorry that you find my actions suspicious. Maybe if my name was webadict I could get away with it?

lol

[Mephansteras]

That reminds me. Meph, you said we have 5 Doppelgangers and up to 5 aliens. For the Doppelganger win condition to trigger, do they need to only outnumber townies or do they need to outnumber townies+aliens?

To win the dopps must equal or outnumber all town + any Non-Survivor Aliens, and there cannot be an Exterminator in play.

Actually, with the Dopps outnumbering the Town + all aliens regardless of Exterminatorness, the Dopps can still win by voing for people one at a time and killing at night, as opposed to the Exterminator, who can only kill at night. Therefore, at a higher number of Dopps, the Dopps automatically win. So, it'd be pointless to bother. Now if there were a AWV and Exterminator...

Actually, if the Exterminator is last targeted and he faces 2 Dopps alone, he can win... if he has a Deadman Bomb.

Hehe. Yeah. Actually, there are tons of little things that can mess stuff up. Assassination Bots, AWV, Warlock, Dopp Hunter...

Ok, so the real rule is - Dopps win when there becomes no way for anyone else to stop them.

[Twiggie]

ok, since people asked me to roleclaim, im a protector

also, i would like to alert people of my suspicions of chaoticjosh. firstly, hes only made 2 or 3 posts.
Additionally, he seems to have jumped on me with very little reason.

Yeah, where IS Alex? Seems awfully odd... suspiciously odd.

I'm gonna have to agree with Nuke here, and if we're gonna lynch someone day 1 it might as well be Twiggie..

I've been thinking, Org's smart enough to recognize his tell now that WA pointed it out, and so the "old" way of finding out won't work anymore and is thus obsolete. So I say he's still a suspect.

Town protector, PLEASE protect me. I was the very first person killed in both Paranormal 4 AND 5. While everything turned out for the best in 5, I don't want this trend to continue.

OK... WHAT .... THE .... FUCK ... MAN! 
You're trying to direct the doc your way?  IF this is a town gambyt it doesn't seem to thought of... What if you're a Crazy Scientist with the ability to see who went to your house?  Nice way of finding the doc...
Fos Josh

huh. i was just thinking, twould be an even nicer way for a dopp CS to find the doc...