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Author Topic: Lava and HFS, and a side question  (Read 1774 times)

jseah

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Lava and HFS, and a side question
« on: June 06, 2009, 05:11:53 pm »
Registered just to ask this qn.  =P

Anyway, I know some of the HFS things can survive in lava.  But I'm considering mining out a giant multilevel hall around the HFS and using an alternating arrangement of water and magma sprayers from the roof and walls.  Pressurized by many many pumps of course. 

So yeah, they can survive in lava and water I'm sure.  But will my "encase in obsidian" plan actually work?

And uh... do cage traps work on them?  I would like to have a few as "pets" and "test subjects" for "new and fun creations". 

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Also, doesn't making obsidian stone into mechanisms make them lava-proof?  My obsidian mechanisms I built as test in my obsidian forge didn't go away until they got encased. 

IF that doesn't work, I'll need to make admanatine stone mechanisms... -.-  waste of money...
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Byakugan01

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Re: Lava and HFS, and a side question
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2009, 05:12:55 pm »
You need to knock them out to catch them. there's a demonstration somewhere, but i lost the link..
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From Mr. Welch's 1350 things he is not allowed to do in a RPG:
148. There is no Gnomish Deathgrip, and even if there was, it wouldn't involve tongs.
171. My character's dying words are not allowed to be "Hastur, Hastur, Hastur"
218. No matter my alignment, organizing halfling pit fights is a violation.
231. I am not allowed to do anything that would make a Sith Lord cry.
240. Any character with more than three skills specializing in chainsaw is vetoed.

florian

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Re: Lava and HFS, and a side question
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2009, 05:18:47 pm »
Warning SoFs will cause water to boil some ~5 tiles away. Also, SoFs can't be caged.
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zchris13

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Re: Lava and HFS, and a side question
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2009, 05:27:15 pm »
They can't go unconscious.
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Byakugan01

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Re: Lava and HFS, and a side question
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2009, 05:28:46 pm »
The other HFS, however, can.
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From Mr. Welch's 1350 things he is not allowed to do in a RPG:
148. There is no Gnomish Deathgrip, and even if there was, it wouldn't involve tongs.
171. My character's dying words are not allowed to be "Hastur, Hastur, Hastur"
218. No matter my alignment, organizing halfling pit fights is a violation.
231. I am not allowed to do anything that would make a Sith Lord cry.
240. Any character with more than three skills specializing in chainsaw is vetoed.

jseah

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Re: Lava and HFS, and a side question
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2009, 05:32:31 pm »
o.O 5 tile boil-aura?  Hmm... Now I really want one.  If only to drop it into the sea and watch what happens. 
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Byakugan01

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Re: Lava and HFS, and a side question
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2009, 05:33:30 pm »
We call it *the magic liginite bin* for a reason, you know.
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From Mr. Welch's 1350 things he is not allowed to do in a RPG:
148. There is no Gnomish Deathgrip, and even if there was, it wouldn't involve tongs.
171. My character's dying words are not allowed to be "Hastur, Hastur, Hastur"
218. No matter my alignment, organizing halfling pit fights is a violation.
231. I am not allowed to do anything that would make a Sith Lord cry.
240. Any character with more than three skills specializing in chainsaw is vetoed.

Stargrasper

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Re: Lava and HFS, and a side question
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2009, 05:34:10 pm »
I've never heard of obsidian mechanisms being magma proof.  They work up to their point of failure and then...fail...like every other stone EXCEPT for bauxite and adamentine.  If you want to be certain your mechanisms are safe, import some bauxite.
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jseah

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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2009, 05:35:46 pm »
Hmm.. what happens if a multi-z level, large square of natural rock drops on them?  There's no where for the body to go...

I'm hoping my magma-water combiners can do the obsidian forming in mid-air. 

As RPGers say: "Rocks fall, everyone dies..."
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jseah

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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2009, 05:39:08 pm »
=(  That's bad... bauxite is... doesn't seem to exist in my worldgen.  Traders don't have it. 
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Stargrasper

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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2009, 05:43:17 pm »
Quote from: jseah on June 06, 2009, 05:39:08 pm
=(  That's bad... bauxite is... doesn't seem to exist in my worldgen.  Traders don't have it. 

Have you tried specifically requesting it from traders?  Set it to a higher priority and you'll pay extra for it, but they'll bring it(probably).

Otherwise you could...cheat.  Use utilities to turn something else into bauxite.  I recommend requesting it from traders.
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florian

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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2009, 05:45:23 pm »
Or try Molten Rocks mod. That makes lots of stones magma-safe.
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Re: Lava and HFS, and a side question
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2009, 06:51:47 pm »
Things that SHOULD be magma safe. Not just because we say so.
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Re: Lava and HFS, and a side question
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2009, 07:05:59 pm »
That's the thing, neither the dwarves nor the humans have bauxite available for requesting or I'd have a ton of the things already.  I'm looking for every way to spend my 18k (or was it 180k? I've an entire storage level dedicated to food) stack of food before they rot and goblin invasions aren't helping matters.  (as in they get slaughtered by my crossbows and the stuff I just sell)

 - I've taken to requesting all the expensive gems and precious metal bars, plus giving all merchants a 100% profit and 100% tribute.  =/  60 dwarves apparently eat less than I expect them to.  At least their happy from all the light yellow diamond windows I'm making. 


Could I mod bauxite in somehow?  Like give traders it or something so I don't have to cheat to get more of it. 
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Argonnek

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Re: Lava and HFS, and a side question
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2009, 07:09:35 pm »
You could mod a smelter reaction to give you bauxite. I leave it to others to determine whether or not that would be cheating.
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