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[Tilla]

Total unsupportable hype, as per usual with Molyneux. Especially since he said they'd only been experimenting for a couple months at the intro. NATAL itself is apperently...not so functional, at least if teh president of EA is to be believed.

[Neonivek]

I have decided that the video of the woman playing the game is fake, and she's just acting through it. During the part with the water, she slips up, and her movements don't match with the movements on the screen. There's a apart where her left arm on the screen shoots out before her actual arm does.

There is no part of the video that really needs to be fake (Current Xbox360 Camera can do the exact same thing) and the technical failures of the camera is unsurprising.

I think the LARGER issue is: How the heck is he going to turn it into a game?

Milo is amazing to showcase the technology but if that demo WAS the game it would be rather poor.

[Sowelu]

Easy, it's not supposed to be a game exactly.  Kind of like an Aibo I guess.

[Neonivek]

Easy, it's not supposed to be a game exactly.  Kind of like an Aibo I guess.

I don't think that is going to cut it. At one point Id think people would see through the Razzle Dazzle and say "Hey I think there is supposed to be a game in here"

[Tormy]

I remember believing all his lies about Black and white... Never again..

This. 

[Neonivek]

I remember believing all his lies about Black and white... Never again..

This. 

Kinda glad I found out about the game pretty close to when it was released. It was a blast!

Black and White 2 though was just plain bad. Though this one oddly enough wasn't entirely his fault. (Goodness Beyond Limits type bad luck!)

[Tormy]

Hm....so B&W 1. was good?...because I only played with part 2. to be honest. 

[Sowelu]

Black & White 1 was a fun sandbox with no research and not much RTS elements, and plenty of its own annoyances.

Black & White 2 was a bad RTS built on a concept that it really wasn't designed for.

2 had no real merits to it.  1 had plenty of merits, whether or not they were overshadowed by its failings is up to you.

Black & White 1 was best when you played it as a toy, not as a game.  Which explains Milo.  I had way more fun teaching my creature to act how I wanted it to, and seeing how it reacted when I took it out to visit some villages, than I did actually trying to beat the unfun campaign.

[Ampersand]

I have decided that the video of the woman playing the game is fake, and she's just acting through it. During the part with the water, she slips up, and her movements don't match with the movements on the screen. There's a apart where her left arm on the screen shoots out before her actual arm does.

There is no part of the video that really needs to be fake (Current Xbox360 Camera can do the exact same thing) and the technical failures of the camera is unsurprising.

I think the LARGER issue is: How the heck is he going to turn it into a game?

Milo is amazing to showcase the technology but if that demo WAS the game it would be rather poor.

It doesn't matter if the video needs to be fake or not; it is.

[Neonivek]

Black and white was a real time strategy? *checks it out*

Hmm!?! apperantly it was.

Though it plays a lot more like a Puzzle Simulation mix. (In fact I thought it was a simulation game)

Edit addition: What I mean Ampersand was since the video didn't need to be fake and could easily be explained away through technical glitches and ocean ripples. It likely is real. At least as real as The 2005 Spore Demo

[Sowelu]

No, Black and White 2 was an RTS, and it was a mediocre one.  Don't play it.  The first game wasn't an RTS, it was a god game and a creature training game.

I had my creature trained pretty well.  He would pick up trees, plant them farther from other trees in harvested areas, and then water saplings.  Then he would cast lightning at the enemy creature.

[Neonivek]

The Campaign isn't that bad until two levels anyhow

1) When your creature is encased in solid ice
2) When your transported to HECK! which isn't that bad until you find Ogres you have to defeat whome you cannot attack because they are too small.

My Brother's creature is interesting. He accidently taught it to set trees on fire. (He also fought with it so much that its arms were crippled and he had to switch it)

[Sordid]

Scientific method. Wait till it's actually released.

Prior plausibility is a big part of that. Given the general state of artificial intelligence at this point in time coupled with this guy's track record... yeah, I'm skeptical.

He has to be blatantly, flat-out lying.  He said "this works, today".

Well actually bits of it do: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/rodney_brooks_on_robots.html
Gets interesting about halfway through. That one's six years old, but I don't think the technology has advanced quite that much in this time.

[Yanlin]

You want a case in point? Graphics.

Look at graphics 6 years ago. If they advanced that much, so did AI.

[Drakale]

You want a case in point? Graphics.

Look at graphics 6 years ago. If they advanced that much, so did AI.

Don't compare apples to 10 million triangle bumpmapped HDR oranges.