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Martin

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Re: Making Physics Cry
« Reply #45 on: June 01, 2009, 10:32:55 am »

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Re: Making Physics Cry
« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2009, 06:40:18 pm »

You guys know the invention of antimatter pretty much broke the rule:  "Matter can be neither created or destroyed."  Funny thing, now the rule is "matter can be neither created nor destroyed in chemical reactions."

I think that since E=mc2, that means we can make energy infinitely.  Hypothetically.
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Re: Making Physics Cry
« Reply #47 on: June 01, 2009, 07:06:13 pm »

E=mc^2: energy is fungible with mass.

Still can't create or destroy actually, just convert.
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Re: Making Physics Cry
« Reply #48 on: June 01, 2009, 07:10:29 pm »

There is an infinite amount of matter in the universe.  Or near infinite, anyway.  So good for you.
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« Reply #49 on: June 01, 2009, 08:13:50 pm »

E=mc^2: energy is fungible with mass.

Still can't create or destroy actually, just convert.
Antimatter!  We make it from energy, yet we get more when we collide it with matter.
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Re: Making Physics Cry
« Reply #50 on: June 01, 2009, 08:24:47 pm »

Antimatter!  We make it from energy, yet we get more when we collide it with matter.
Actually, the energy you get back from the collision, is at best equal to the energy it took to make the antimatter.  No free lunch.
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Re: Making Physics Cry
« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2009, 08:33:36 pm »

Antimatter!  We make it from energy, yet we get more when we collide it with matter.
Actually, the energy you get back from the collision, is at best equal to the energy it took to make the antimatter.  No free lunch.
No free lunch.  But we still get to piss on the slightly edible trash left behind though.
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« Reply #52 on: June 01, 2009, 08:37:25 pm »

Antimatter!  We make it from energy, yet we get more when we collide it with matter.
Actually, the energy you get back from the collision, is at best equal to the energy it took to make the antimatter.  No free lunch.
More than that, actually.  Otherwise no one would be funding antimatter research.
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Re: Making Physics Cry
« Reply #53 on: June 01, 2009, 08:48:11 pm »

Joe MincedPuppet: Oh hey! Quarry bush leaves!  Yum Yum!  Wait...why are they purple?

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Joe MincedPuppet: Why oh why did we choose the plump helmet loving mayor over the star sapphire loving one!? *Fist shake*
Now, you have to ask yourself, where does the purple dye come from?  The logical explanation would be plump helmets.  The slightly less logical explanation is redroot dye and dimple dye mixed together.
The Dwarven explanation is pitchblende.
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« Reply #54 on: June 01, 2009, 08:56:15 pm »

Dwarf A:  "Urist, why are you wearing that third arm?"

Urist:  "New mayor likes plump helmets."
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« Reply #55 on: June 01, 2009, 09:06:47 pm »

More than that, actually.  Otherwise no one would be funding antimatter research.
Nobody is funding antimatter as an energy source.  An energy storage medium perhaps, although even that is pretty far off in the future.  You can't get more energy from reacting the antimatter than it took to make it in the first place.  Matter-energy conservation is funny that way.
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« Reply #56 on: June 02, 2009, 02:10:44 am »

the antimtter can be reay dangerius because it negate all the matter arround it
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Re: Making Physics Cry
« Reply #57 on: June 02, 2009, 03:01:51 am »

Is it even possible to interact with antimatter in our universe? If its even real, we should be able t observe it, but not interact with it, since it apparently goes losing is fun whenever it gets in contact with matter?
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« Reply #58 on: June 02, 2009, 04:23:03 am »

Oh it's very possible and has been done, but only with a few particles at a time. In physical terms, a matter particle and its anti-counterpart will annihilate on contact and leave behind photons with the total energy of the annihilated mass times the square of light speed.

In more dwarven terms, it lights up faster than a fire imp party in a stockpile o' booze.

We're still here because the universe is biased towards our kind of matter and antimatter is pretty damn rare.
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« Reply #59 on: June 02, 2009, 04:53:54 am »

 If you're wondering about a bit of the detail, antimatter is stored and created under really strong electromagnetic fields. So we make it levitate in a vacuum box to keep it from going off. And last time I looked, the reason research was pushing forward was because a group of rich people think it's cool. So far we haven't come up with a way to make it efficiently to be useful for anything, or easy to use.
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