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[Shaostoul]

Yeah, I would say a legendary architect and masterpiece buildings is another way to improve every ones mood. Just like having statues, chairs and other fancy stuff in main and submain traffic areas.

[eerr]

It's just a much more space-time consuming process compared to cooking, like something out of star-treck.

Also assumes you've planned your fort very very well.

[Shaostoul]

Normally when I place things, they stay there for good. Maybe it's just the way I build.

[Raging Mouse]

The responses fall about as I'd guessed.

There's one building designed by architects that have yet been named in this thread: shops. Since they are sources of happy thoughts (Urist mcShopper has made a satisfying acquisition lately), and also get visited once in a while, I figure it might be worth it to make them masterwork. What do you think?

[kotekzot]

The responses fall about as I'd guessed.

There's one building designed by architects that have yet been named in this thread: shops. Since they are sources of happy thoughts (Urist mcShopper has made a satisfying acquisition lately), and also get visited once in a while, I figure it might be worth it to make them masterwork. What do you think?

i guess it could be nice to make a bazaar with masterwork shops in some of your hallways? wouldn't it go against the bazaar atmosphere to have nice shops though? doesn't seem particularly inspiring to me. a masterwork trade depot on the other hand is nice to show those elves who's the master race.

[DG]

I train my architect by having him haul stones. Instead of designating stone stockpiles I make hundreds of archery ranges where I want the stone to be.

[Raging Mouse]

The responses fall about as I'd guessed.

There's one building designed by architects that have yet been named in this thread: shops. Since they are sources of happy thoughts (Urist mcShopper has made a satisfying acquisition lately), and also get visited once in a while, I figure it might be worth it to make them masterwork. What do you think?

i guess it could be nice to make a bazaar with masterwork shops in some of your hallways? wouldn't it go against the bazaar atmosphere to have nice shops though? doesn't seem particularly inspiring to me. a masterwork trade depot on the other hand is nice to show those elves who's the master race.

Nah. The way I see it, designing a shop for maximum clutter is very dwarven.

[Albedo]

Normally when I place things, they stay there for good. Maybe it's just the way I build.

I don't see how this relates to anything that's been said.

No one is suggesting moving anything.  By the end of year two, I hope I have 3 forges (at least) - maybe more if I've splurged on steel anvils. One should have some down-time so I can tear it down and rebuild it right where it is - it's still right where I placed it originally.

(But you should consider using temporary workshops, esp stonecraft/mason.  Perfect for building furniture on locale.)

[assimilateur]

Splurging on steel anvils? Does that mean that iron ones won't work with magma forges?

(Yes, I'm that much of a noob: I still have to build my first magma forge, kiln, furnace, etc)

[Albedo]

Nah, and it's a legit question - they both work identically.  Which is why paying 3x as much for the steel ones (1000 db vs 3000 db) is a bit of a waste if you're tight on trade goods the first year, and ~IF~ the caravan has iron ones.  Which is that big of an "if" sometimes. 

[assimilateur]

I can see, however, how that becomes a moot point later on, seeing how you might as well buy steel ones if you've got trade goods aplenty.

[Albedo]

Exactly - and if you happen to mood up a metalsmith, you could just make your own with quality mods for the value (the highest value metal item possible, equal to plate armour!)

If you don't have a real machine going, it's hard to buy out that first Autumn caravan. If you can't do that for the second, with trade power to spare, something's gone wrong.

[assimilateur]

something's gone wrong.

Or you're still a learner. At least that's the excuse I'm giving.

[Albedo]

If you have some flux stone (and certainly if you have obsidian) you can pretty much cover an entire caravan worth of goods in a month or a month and a half with a Proficient stonecrafter.  If you toss in a few pieces of reject furniture and mechanisms, it's usually pretty much a lock. (The trick is to buy their pointless stone blocks - you're not buying the block, your buying the lift it gives the caravan).

Buy everything heavy, then buy what you want/what the caravan can lift. (Mugs weigh almost nuthin'.)

[assimilateur]

You're talking about crafting out of flux? Shouldn't said flux be reserved for steel production?