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Hell, yeah!

34 (39.1%)

Heavens, no!

17 (19.5%)

Whatev, brah!

36 (41.4%)

Total Members Voted: 87

[olemars]

Steve Ballmer showing off his sweat glands.

[Yanlin]

The only difference between casual programmers and professional developers is that one gets a paycheck.

And... You know... All the experience and coding knowledge?

[olemars]

The only difference between casual programmers and professional developers is that one gets a paycheck.

And... You know... All the experience and coding knowledge?

You totally missed his point. A good chunk (I'd even claim it to be a solid majority) of open source developers are "professional developers" in the sense that their day job is programming. The difference is that they do the open source development on their spare time as a hobby or personal drive, like Toady did before he quit his job. So the experience and coding knowledge is just as strong as anywhere.

And a lot of linux developers are in fact employed full time or per-project to work on linux or some other piece of software. Examples are the linux kernel, major linux distributions, Mozilla, Ogre3d and lots of others.

The true advantage of commercial software development is project organization, deadlines and goals/milestones. Open source projects often lack these (although it seems to have gotten generally better the last few years), which tends to result in feature creep and unfinished/lopsided software.

[Alexhans]

and the disadvantage are managers....

and here I would post the link Some Real Life truisms from the world of game development but it's GONE!!! 

I have it in my old computer saved in txt... I MUST get it.

[Ampersand]

The only difference between casual programmers and professional developers is that one gets a paycheck.

And... You know... All the experience and coding knowledge?

You totally missed his point. A good chunk (I'd even claim it to be a solid majority) of open source developers are "professional developers" in the sense that their day job is programming. The difference is that they do the open source development on their spare time as a hobby or personal drive, like Toady did before he quit his job. So the experience and coding knowledge is just as strong as anywhere.

And a lot of linux developers are in fact employed full time or per-project to work on linux or some other piece of software. Examples are the linux kernel, major linux distributions, Mozilla, Ogre3d and lots of others.

The true advantage of commercial software development is project organization, deadlines and goals/milestones. Open source projects often lack these (although it seems to have gotten generally better the last few years), which tends to result in feature creep and unfinished/lopsided software.

My point was that that anything that a professional does without payment is by definition casual. While you do hit on that point, I feel a more succinct statement is a bit more helpful.

[kcwong]

http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html

I'll just leave this here.

Thank you thank you thank you thank you.

That's very interesting.

[Yanlin]

The only difference between casual programmers and professional developers is that one gets a paycheck.

And... You know... All the experience and coding knowledge?

You totally missed his point. A good chunk (I'd even claim it to be a solid majority) of open source developers are "professional developers" in the sense that their day job is programming. The difference is that they do the open source development on their spare time as a hobby or personal drive, like Toady did before he quit his job. So the experience and coding knowledge is just as strong as anywhere.

And a lot of linux developers are in fact employed full time or per-project to work on linux or some other piece of software. Examples are the linux kernel, major linux distributions, Mozilla, Ogre3d and lots of others.

The true advantage of commercial software development is project organization, deadlines and goals/milestones. Open source projects often lack these (although it seems to have gotten generally better the last few years), which tends to result in feature creep and unfinished/lopsided software.

I did not know that. Alright then. 1000 Linux developers > 500 Microsoft DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS

[Ryo]

Steve Ballmer looks awfully familiar

[Ampersand]

If he was out to make one meeeeillion dollars, windows wouldn't cost an organ.

[Ampersand]

http://www.longene.org/en/index.php Topical. Might raise some eyebrows.

[Ryo]

http://www.longene.org/en/index.php Topical. Might raise some eyebrows.

Page won't load, all I get is:

Connection Interrupted The document contains no data. The network link was interrupted while negotiating a connection. Please try again.

And yes, I did have to copy the full error message, including formatting.

[eerr]

micrsoft does in fact, pown.
Why? micrsoft beats mac and linux by over 5x sales.
might makes right therefore micrsoft is the perpetual winner.

[Duke 2.0]

micrsoft does in fact, pown.
Why? micrsoft beats mac and linux by over 5x sales.
might makes right therefore micrsoft is the perpetual winner.

Of course, sales alone is a rather subjective scale. One could say most of those sales are because everybody else has the program for business applications and thus in order to have a successful business one must have the same software.

 Note I'm one of the guys who maintains that Windows does not suck. I just need to point this out to be a better man than OS fanboys that completely ignore the possible downfalls of their OS's. Windows ain't perfect, but it works as long as you don't screw around and have some savvy guy for when things that are not supposed to happen happen. Something that can be said of every OS.

[Ampersand]

http://www.longene.org/en/index.php Topical. Might raise some eyebrows.

Page won't load, all I get is:

Connection Interrupted The document contains no data. The network link was interrupted while negotiating a connection. Please try again.

And yes, I did have to copy the full error message, including formatting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Unified_Kernel <- Same thing. Same information anyway.

[ToonyMan]

micrsoft does in fact, pown.
Why? micrsoft beats mac and linux by over 5x sales.
might makes right therefore micrsoft is the perpetual winner.

Of course, sales alone is a rather subjective scale. One could say most of those sales are because everybody else has the program for business applications and thus in order to have a successful business one must have the same software.

 Note I'm one of the guys who maintains that Windows does not suck. I just need to point this out to be a better man than OS fanboys that completely ignore the possible downfalls of their OS's. Windows ain't perfect, but it works as long as you don't screw around and have some savvy guy for when things that are not supposed to happen happen. Something that can be said of every OS.

Ever hear of this stupid game called "Carnival Games"?  Or "NintenDogs"?  They have record sales yet they ARE NOT WHAT YOU CALL FUN.