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Author Topic: No Goblin neighbours, can I still get sieged?  (Read 2413 times)

bullyfish

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No Goblin neighbours, can I still get sieged?
« on: May 21, 2009, 09:22:34 am »
Hey all, just recently got into DF properly and have managed to get a really nice fortress going with everything I've wanted in it. But I didn't properly check my site, and now I realize I only have Dwarf and Elf neighbors where I am.

Is there any chance of still getting sieges? Either through some init modifying, or just making the elves angry at me somehow? Otherwise I may just set up a new fortress in a better location, as I really want to get some battles and fights going on.

Thanks in advance :)
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Urist McCyrilin

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Re: No Goblin neighbours, can I still get sieged?
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2009, 09:44:03 am »
From what I gather, yes. Apart from the possibility of Hugh Mans and Hippies becoming hostile to you, I believe to recall that Goblin sieging armies are spontaneously created, often not relying on their civ to be present. Sort of like how kids kidnapped from you disappear into limbo and suddenly reemerge from nothingness, introducing you to their new family.
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Re: No Goblin neighbours, can I still get sieged?
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2009, 10:39:11 am »
Or you can look for a small gap between the landmasses with and without goblins and build a bridge over it. That's what I did to introduce the orcs to elves, who were hiting in their retreat on a large isolated island. *grin*
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Re: No Goblin neighbours, can I still get sieged?
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2009, 10:46:00 am »
You can also get the elves angry at you, and they'll start sending ambushes, as I recently... discovered...

:( Send help!
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Re: No Goblin neighbours, can I still get sieged?
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2009, 03:17:59 pm »
Quote from: Oladon on May 21, 2009, 10:46:00 am
You can also get the elves angry at you, and they'll start sending ambushes, as I recently... discovered...

:( Send help!

They're armed with friggin' wood...
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Re: No Goblin neighbours, can I still get sieged?
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2009, 05:03:21 pm »
PEW PEW PEW, you just took a tree to the brain.  It is Pierced through!

Sound familiar?
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Re: No Goblin neighbours, can I still get sieged?
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2009, 05:14:58 pm »
Toady barely has immigration working.
Any goblins you see are randomly generated.
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Re: No Goblin neighbours, can I still get sieged?
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2009, 05:40:02 pm »
Goblins don't immigrate. They are slaughterificated.
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Re: No Goblin neighbours, can I still get sieged?
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2009, 08:30:04 pm »
Quote from: Leafsnail on May 21, 2009, 03:17:59 pm
Quote from: Oladon on May 21, 2009, 10:46:00 am
You can also get the elves angry at you, and they'll start sending ambushes, as I recently... discovered...

:( Send help!

They're armed with friggin' wood...

Actually, no... they're armed with masterwork iron and steel maces, swords, and axes.
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Re: No Goblin neighbours, can I still get sieged?
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2009, 08:55:58 pm »
That doesn't sound like elves to me... Something is up.
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Re: No Goblin neighbours, can I still get sieged?
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2009, 09:17:58 pm »
A lot of misinformation in here.  Although siegers and ambushers are mostly generated on the fly (with the exception of occasional historical figures that show up leading squads), they still come from a specific civilization, which must be a neighboring civ.  If you don't have neighboring goblins, you won't get goblin sieges.  However, civs will not show up in the in-game civs screen until you've made contact with them.  You might still have some nearby.  This is why it's important to check the civs tab on the embark screen, which will always list all neighboring civs.
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