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Gabeux

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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #20415 on: November 14, 2017, 03:39:01 pm »

OK so, need some server advice. I am starting up a fresh server again, the purpose of the server will be for YouTube livestreams with my son and our subscribers will be playing with us.

I am deliberating over a few things, each of them might be considered separately or as a whole, but here they are:

Modded or Vanilla?
I do like the idea that people wont have to get Twitch and DL a pack from there, but Twitch does make it pretty easy. I like the idea of mods but on the other hand, vanilla has come a long way since the olden days. SO the question is, modded server or vanilla? If modded, what modpacks do you all love?

Grief Prevention?
I have installed the Bukkit plugin "Grief Prevention" and started to play with it. Anyone have experience with it? Any suggestions? Pros and cons? Better plugins to deal with this?

What would make a fun YouTube Livestream server?
What do people want to see nowadays? Minecraft is getting on in age and perhaps people are bored with it. I was wondering if there was any niche sort of thing I could do with this, perhaps make an educational server for kids and families, any suggestions?

I really appreciate feedback here!

Bringing up the thread and this 10-day old post again. I've been playing a ton of Minecraft with my girlfriend, ""unfortunately"" she has a crazy amount of work to do for the next couple months, so I think I'll be freezing our world until she's free.
The best modpacks I can think at the moment for some videos/livestream, that we are planning to do some day, is Age of Engineering and Space Astronomy 2. AoE is linear and goal-based (when compared with other modpacks), and SA2 has the overarching goal to go to space and visit all the planets - it also has a good mix of tech and magic mods, and Mekanism is in there in case you want to rocket away from the early game.
Of course, this comes from someone who exclusively play tech mods/tech packs, so I have no knowledge or awareness of adventure/questing-focused packs. If you guys are into exploration and quests, there might be better options.

I have no experience on griefing prevention and whatnot, or server settings in general, as I usually tune local servers to play with friends who will usually go by my slight tuning (I'm too lazy to learn all the configs, parameters, possibilities).
But I like how FTB modpacks deal with such things. My girlfriend's brother joined us, and all I did was claim chunks through the FTB Teams interface, and you can also pick which chunks to chunkload from there. It prevents people from breaking or building in other teams' chunks, but I'm not sure if it protects inventories and interactions (might be configurable?)
With that, and with mods, safety of inventories would be on the hands of players..which is not a big deal on most modern/developed mods - if I remember correctly, Mekanism and RFTools for instance, have very straightforward ways to prevent people from interacting with other people's blocks. I used RFTools shield generators and block protectors for further assurance.

On Minecraft getting boring, I don't know man. Minecraft is basically a platform with all kinds of people. Some people only play multiplayer PVP, some people only play minigames, some people only play adventure mods, some people have the audacity to call themselves "purists" and won't even use a different resource pack... I don't think it's slowing down, I think people are finding and sticking to what they like.
Everyone I know that plays Minecraft will play in bursts, and then take a break. But they always come back. That's my observations and experience, though, I might be totally wrong.

All that said, whatever you do, as long as you do it with genuinely and willingly, will eventually find an audience. Example, me and girlfriend haven't played Vanilla in YEARS, yet we bumped into an Youtuber who is making a [initially] Vanilla series in which every 10 videos, he'll add a mod that the viewers choose. As he's clearly hyped and going crazy in the videos (investing a LOT of time simply mining, enchanting, making a mob grinder, "simple" stuff that is more complicated in Vanilla), it becomes entertaining..even though Vanilla has 90% less stuff to do than Modded.

My final advice would be to "just do it". Me and gf have been talking of making a youtube channel for three months, but we never start it because we talk ideas and never find the "perfect" one.
There'll never be a perfect start. Find something that you like and stick to it. That's why you have to find something that both you and your partners (son) enjoy. It might take a while to blimp in folks radars, might as well have fun in the meantime.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2017, 03:41:41 pm by Gabeux »
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It honestly feels like a lot of their problems came from the fact that their entire team was composed of cats, and the people who were supposed to be herding them were also cats.

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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #20416 on: November 15, 2017, 04:26:49 pm »

Guys, gonna make an awkward question here. Anyone ever notice any differences in FPS in Minecraft when dealing with AMD / Intel builds, and do you have any tips for increasing FPS?

I've always been an AMD guy, as in the technological-3rd-world-country that I live, AMD cost vs. benefit is crazy good. An Intel build here in Brazil that achieves the same (or less) than an AMD build costs 2 times (or more)..although this is changing as AMD is getting more expensive and power-hungry.

So in other words, anyone has an AMD build that gets 60 FPS on a modded Minecraft world? In my base I'm stuck at 20, and playing worlds with Biomes O' Plenty keeps FPS at 20 or so, almost everywhere.
Meanwhile, my gf PC has an Intel build that gets 60-120 FPS where I get 20-30. I swapped our cards and I gained 20-30 FPS, even though my RX 480 should be 'tougher' than her 1050 Ti.

My build has no issues with AAA games, at all. But with some indie/experimental games (that might favor Nvidia and postphone AMD optimizations forever), it feels like it's shitting itself.
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It honestly feels like a lot of their problems came from the fact that their entire team was composed of cats, and the people who were supposed to be herding them were also cats.

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« Reply #20417 on: December 07, 2017, 03:51:31 pm »

A lad I know made this and it seemed relevant to the group's interests.

Armokcraft: A DF themed minecraft server
 
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #20418 on: December 07, 2017, 10:25:50 pm »

I jumped into Armokcraft just long enough to build a simple mine and garden near the spawn area. I might go back and do more...but I'm finding it somewhat tedious without creature-comforts like NEI, chest-sorting, and builder wands.
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« Reply #20419 on: January 11, 2018, 08:09:51 pm »

So I have tried making a server with the modpack "All the Mods 3" and can join it myself, however when my friend tries to join it, he immediately times out. In the logs I see the line:

network dispatcher exception io.netty.handler.timeout.ReadTimeoutException : null

No idea if that is the cause, but I can't figure out why he can't connect. I need help.
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« Reply #20420 on: January 12, 2018, 01:13:09 pm »

Are you running the server in your own computer or network? If yes, how is your friend connecting to it?
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« Reply #20421 on: January 12, 2018, 01:27:00 pm »

Just going to be broad here: That error means that your friend cant connect to the server fast enough (Too high of a ping time, or the packets are getting dropped. Also can be network speed)

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« Reply #20422 on: January 14, 2018, 12:36:35 am »

Are you running the server in your own computer or network? If yes, how is your friend connecting to it?

Yes the server runs on my personal desktop. He is connecting with the external ping.

Just going to be broad here: That error means that your friend cant connect to the server fast enough (Too high of a ping time, or the packets are getting dropped. Also can be network speed)
That's what I thought, but the thing is he joined other minecraft servers of mine in the past and has enough ping to play multiplayer games just fine.
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« Reply #20423 on: January 14, 2018, 10:54:20 am »

Could you maybe be having firewall issues? I had to use a VPN to connect to friends servers before.
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« Reply #20424 on: January 14, 2018, 02:34:14 pm »

Could you maybe be having firewall issues? I had to use a VPN to connect to friends servers before.

I disabled my firewall so no.
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« Reply #20425 on: January 14, 2018, 03:05:32 pm »

Does newer minecraft have a ping limit in server.properties or like one?
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« Reply #20426 on: January 14, 2018, 03:32:06 pm »

The only ones that look suspicious are:

player-idle-timeout=0

max-tick-time=60000

network-compression-threshold=256
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« Reply #20427 on: January 15, 2018, 10:05:36 am »

It's my experience that the more mods, the slower it may be to initialize some stuff and that gets you kicked out because of the delay. In one case, I just kept trying because apparently there needed to be some first-time-code for each new player, and just retrying over and over would fix it permanently for that user. But that isn't guaranteed.
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« Reply #20428 on: January 15, 2018, 11:34:35 am »

player_idle_timeout isn't new, and zero is the default disabled option iirc.
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« Reply #20429 on: January 18, 2018, 03:12:59 pm »

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