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[Urist McScoopbeard]

I can't really see MC2 being a thing. It'd need to have a significant draw for people to shell out tonnes of cash, and "more of the same but now you have to pay for it" isn't going to draw a huge userbase.

see COD

[Chiefwaffles]

Not to mention porting it away from Java would require recoding the entire game.

You mean the W10 + Mobile + Console versions?

[Orange Wizard]

see COD

Fuck

[LordBucket]

https://minecraft.net/stats

22 million people have bought minecraft over the lifetime of the game. Even if they could sell the game all over again to every single one of those people, plus an extra two expansions at $20 each to every one of those people, that's still barely half the $2.5 billion they paid for Mojang.

My impression is that Microsoft has some sort of strategy relating minecraft to VR. They  really like to show minecraft during hololens demos, for example. But I'm unclear on what that strategy involves. Whenever I see the demos, I come away feeling like microsoft doesn't really understand what minecraft is.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

see COD

Fuck

SADLY, the "more of the same, but pay for it" is a model that works wonders, especially on the entitled, deranged community of pre-teens that MC (and COD for that matter) caters to!

[TheBronzePickle]

Whenever I see the demos, I come away feeling like microsoft doesn't really understand what minecraft is.

To be fair to Microsoft, I'm not sure Mojang really understood what Minecraft is, either.

[Orange Wizard]

SADLY, the "more of the same, but pay for it" is a model that works wonders, especially on the entitled, deranged community of pre-teens that MC (and COD for that matter) caters to!

Minecraft: Modern Blockfare XVII

[KingofstarrySkies]

Whenever I see the demos, I come away feeling like microsoft doesn't really understand what minecraft is.

To be fair to Microsoft, I'm not sure Mojang really understood what Minecraft is, either.

It's fairly hard to capture what it is. It's different for everyone who plays it; Some people like the building, others like the mining and exploration... me, I think this game is a tad boring without mods that give it substance.

[miauw62]

More likely is Microsoft packaging and selling expansions that mimic big mods, which are always kept compatible with the main game, while constantly putting out mod-breaking core updates to destroy the modding community. "Why make something yourself if you can buy it from us?"

I... Doubt it'll get that bad.

Probably not, but oh god, I had a terrible vision. With the UWP and Windows Store shenanigans detailed in that other thread, you know what I expect? I expect Microsoft will finally port Minecraft away from Java... and then put it behind their Universal Windows Platform. It might even include API, just that it will be integrated into the app instead of the hackfest that modding is today (meaning, also as I expect and as I fear, the only modding permitted will be in the manner exposed through that API).

And it just might work too, because Minecraft is by far the most popular "game" Microsoft owns right now. And not just among "gamers" but among children. Someone else I know fears that Microsoft might clue in to that fact and try to exploit that popularity, making Minecraft Microsoft's "Super Mario Brothers." (Whether that's a good or bad thing, /shrug.) The only reason that putting Minecraft behind UWP would fail would be because everyone interested in Minecraft pretty much has it already; but on the other hand, if you can run the same worlds from your PC/tablet/phone on a whim, maybe there are some more purchases to be had there.

That said, even if they tried, there would probably continue to be a java "fork" based on their last official update.

More likely is Microsoft packaging and selling expansions that mimic big mods, which are always kept compatible with the main game, while constantly putting out mod-breaking core updates to destroy the modding community. "Why make something yourself if you can buy it from us?"

im alpha, so legally they have to give them all to me for free :^]

All they'd have to do is say "Were discontinuing work on Minecraft, but there's a Minecraft 2 now! $40 USD for the base game, check back every six months for new expansion content!." Could also tie in to moving off JAVA and/or into UWP. (I will stress that I have no evidence that they will do that, but rather it is just the kind of moneygrubbing I expect.)

And that's assuming that the original alpha clause legally survives the transition of ownership; I'm not a lawyer, but it probably should, if the binding party was Mojang, with Mojang still being the owner of Minecraft.

Yeah I'm not sure how legally binding that clause is. I don't care that much, though. If it's still valid, free stuff, yay! If it's not, it's not like I play minecraft much anymore.

Also nobody understands what minecraft is. Look at notch's early blog posts. Look at the adventure update. Vanilla updates have been disappointing since we got the new save file menu (beta 1.3, iirc)

[Orange Wizard]

Minecraft is like the building blocks for whatever the hell kind of game you want it to be. I think it'd be a lot better if it was developed with modding in mind rather than vanilla gameplay.

[sluissa]

Not to mention porting it away from Java would require recoding the entire game.

You mean the W10 + Mobile + Console versions?

Java's designed to work across platforms to a degree. Moving away from Java entirely isn't rewriting parts of it, it's utterly rewriting the whole thing.

The W10, Mobile and Console versions are not written in Java. The game has ALREADY been completely rewritten in another language. (Although admittedly those versions lack a few features of the Java version.)

[Oneir]

The mobile version is/was apparently done in C++ circa 2014, according to Wikipedia. An unsourced Minecraft forum post states, angrily, that the Xbox version is in C#, which I find completely hilarious. If Microsoft is serious about the UWP thing, and about having Minecraft as a flagship product, it'd totally make sense for them to try and rehash it under UWP.

[Putnam]

The developers have explicitly called the W10 version "the C++ version".

[Rose]

You're able to write UWP apps in C++, actually.

[Orange Wizard]

Minecraft for Eggsbox was written in C# long before MS bought the thing, IIRC.