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[dragnar]

The MAIN issue with all this that Sealy was addressing is that you can't have 'premium players', or anything like that. Which, yes, you can easily paint as evil - but they're what run a lot of servers. I know a pretty large number at least have things like limits on how much land you can apply grief-protection plugins to, or how much you can chunk-load at once. You know, things which - in greater amounts - put greater strain on the server. You can play fine without them, but having them is nice for more dedicated players. This isn't "10 bucks to access the nether", it's "10 bucks to use up enough extra memory on our server that we need your 10 bucks".

Most servers will be fine, yeah. But minecraft servers benefit from a large player base. Thus, they benefit from allowing people to play for free, because it enhances the experience of the paying players. This removes their ability to actually encourage paying in any gameplay-significant way, even IF the core experience is left alone. Will this shut down tons of servers and spell the end of minecraft or something like that? No, of course not. But it is banning something that a lot of very good servers need to cover their operating costs at the standard of service they currently provide.

[Aklyon]

It sounds like a fix on as much of the bad as possible, but its certainly not a cure-all, after seeing dragnar's point. They've got to put a line between gameplay feature (buckets, nether, etc) and extra server strain (most bukkit-based features, probably) somewhere.

[aristabulus]

... This isn't "10 bucks to access the nether", it's "10 bucks to use up enough extra memory on our server that we need your 10 bucks".
..... But it is banning something that a lot of very good servers need to cover their operating costs at the standard of service they currently provide.

Those servers will have to find a different way, because Mojang says tiered players isn't okay.  Plenty of alternates for revenue from which to choose.

As I said above, Mojang is being incredibly chill about all this.  They don't have to play nice on these matters, legally, but they are.  People shouldn't forget that.

[RexMundi]

Ok, question. Any servers that are friendly running either resonant rise, yogs complete, or something else huge on mods?
I run a lan server for my brothers, but wanna find something with other people that's possible, as i can't portforward..

[Kadzar]

Ok, question. Any servers that are friendly running either resonant rise, yogs complete, or something else huge on mods?
I run a lan server for my brothers, but wanna find something with other people that's possible, as i can't portforward..

From the mods thread:

You could play on spelltek, its resonant rise 2.8.3.8 right now; has plenty of the magic mods like ars magica and witchery and thuamcraft and lots of other neat stuff like galacticraft and computercraft and such, no whitelist or border, been linked in this thread before but its changed address and I think owners and admins since then; I'm now an admin (http://www.atlauncher.com/downloads/) (s41.hosthorde.com:25879)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

has halved ore and ex nihilo, mystcraft but age creating is banned, free mytown, portalgun not installed for griefing reasons,

[Remuthra]

Ok, question. Any servers that are friendly running either resonant rise, yogs complete, or something else huge on mods?
I run a lan server for my brothers, but wanna find something with other people that's possible, as i can't portforward..

There's nothing now that I know of, but Forsaken's supposed to be starting a modded server sometime soon, I hear.

On a nonsequitur, REEED STONE.

[RexMundi]

thanks, will check that out and watch for updates by forsaken

[Aklyon]

I might be trying a mods server again (a very small one, but large on mods) soonish, but I'd second forsaken if he gets one going; he's pretty good at running them.

[RexMundi]

I might be trying a mods server again (a very small one, but large on mods) soonish, but I'd second forsaken if he gets one going; he's pretty good at running them.

Oooh, like how many lots of mods 

[Aklyon]

I might be trying a mods server again (a very small one, but large on mods) soonish, but I'd second forsaken if he gets one going; he's pretty good at running them.

Oooh, like how many lots of mods 

Its untested so far (and unplayable at the moment, I must acquire more ram to actually run a modserv on here, and then test if it works, etc), but I've been compiling a list here (list subject to random changes, silliness, etc until its settled, MC 1.6.4), since I haven't played mods in ages and am figuring out what the recent ftb packs are made of by looking everything up. Its not going to be on its own server or anything, just a desktop.

[Ultimuh]

I recommend biomes o' plenty, as well. It's a good mod.

Just make sure to change one of the config files so that BoP biomes can be found in Default mode.
There might be less conflicts that way.

I would also like to see Tinkers Construct.
And (maybe) Thaumcraft, as it seem to be compatible with BoP.

[Remuthra]

Top of my list would be things like Witchery and Blood Magic.

[Ultimuh]

Witchery seem to be quite interesting, don't know much about Blood Magic tough.

[Aklyon]

I would also like to see Tinkers Construct.
And (maybe) Thaumcraft, as it seem to be compatible with BoP.

You would see it if you refreshed the page
The whole point of it being in dropbox (instead of a forum post) is so that it updates (more or less) as soon as I add to it, if you refresh the page so it grabs the updated text.

[RexMundi]

Any word on mekanism or roaterycraft?
Also, thoughts on just running a premade pack, or only custom?