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[LordBucket]

until we've decided who's setting up the server.

Forsaken was the one saying he was considering it. I like the idea of a bay12 server, but it's a bit unlikely I'd personally participate since

That said, my input:

Version 1.8 'might' be released later this month. 1.8 will introduce changes to terrain generation and new material types, and it would be sad to start a server now then have the update released the following week and then have to decide whether to reset, deal with people who don't want to play in the 'old' game, etc. Therefore I propose that a bay12 server not be established immediately, but that it be done after 1.8 is released. Possibly wait a week or two after the release so as to avoid stability issues and bugs.

Also, many people have previously commented in this thread that they all want a server to play on, but that griefing and general stupidity makes it not worth doing. Therefore I suggest setting up a whitelist and restricting access exclusively to people who 'are known' in some regard. Personally I don't really care if the server maintainers invites his friends. A few non bay12 players on 'the bay12' server is ok. But I would be hesitant to simply post the IP in a thread here and allow access to anyone who can read it. I would like accountability. Maybe require players to privately request whitelisting and that their in minecraft username match their forum name.

[Tawa]

Imma go smash the other thread then.

EDIT: After reading Bucket's post, yeah, we oughta wait. 1.8 seems better (and the custom world settings seem more dwarfy.)

[Elephant Parade]

Maybe require players to privately request whitelisting and that their in minecraft username match their forum name.

That wouldn't really be fair. Not everyone's Bay12 name matches their forum name, and I don't see what it could possibly accomplish.

Mine does, but some people have different usernames for different things.

Also, I'm against waiting. The terrain generation changes consist (so far, at least) of new stone types (which can be crafted) and customizable terrain generation (which won't matter if we use the world converter).

[Tawa]

Elephant has fair points.

Bucket, your counter?

[Remuthra]

later this month

I trust this statement completely.

[Tawa]

You cite Valve Time for a Mojang game?

Then again, if they have anything in common with DF (which they do) they will abide by the rules of Valve Time.

[LordBucket]

Elephant has fair points.

Bucket, your counter?

Either I don't understand what he's saying, or he doesn't understand what I'm saying. I'm not sure which. I proposed that we require having character local names on the server match bay12 usernames. To which his response was:

Not everyone's Bay12 name matches their forum name

Bay12 is the forum we're talking about. Which "forum name" is he suggesting might not match our "bay12" name? Is there any technical reason why we would be unable to set server whitelist names to any arbitrary thing we want? In this case, bay12 forum names? It doesn't matter what anyone's mojang account name is.

And as far as this part goes:

I don't see what it could possibly accomplish.

I thought that was obvious. If names match, then everyone knows who everyone is. It provides accountability.  If "ElephantParade" destroys your house, you know who did it. If they don't match, then not only do you not know who people are, anyone can register using your name and then post screenshots of someone with your name griefing.

[werty892]

We could just get a Minecraft realm thing. That would work.

[Aklyon]

We could just get a Minecraft realm thing. That would work.

You'd be better off just hosting a server. Realms has a only supports 10 approved players at a time and last I heard isn't globally released yet.

[Remuthra]

Elephant has fair points.

Bucket, your counter?

Either I don't understand what he's saying, or he doesn't understand what I'm saying. I'm not sure which. I proposed that we require having character local names on the server match bay12 usernames. To which his response was:

Not everyone's Bay12 name matches their forum name

Bay12 is the forum we're talking about. Which "forum name" is he suggesting might not match our "bay12" name? Is there any technical reason why we would be unable to set server whitelist names to any arbitrary thing we want? In this case, bay12 forum names? It doesn't matter what anyone's mojang account name is.

And as far as this part goes:

I don't see what it could possibly accomplish.

I thought that was obvious. If names match, then everyone knows who everyone is. It provides accountability.  If "ElephantParade" destroys your house, you know who did it. If they don't match, then not only do you not know who people are, anyone can register using your name and then post screenshots of someone with your name griefing.

I believe he means that not everyone's In-game name matches their forum name, i.e. not everyone has matching accounts.

Based on trends here, I doubt discipline will be a problem. As a small server, part of the Bay 12 community, and tied to a knit group, all odds are against toxicity.

Furthermore, if whitelisted, the server can be provided with a list of name conversions, and it's not like someone could register a new name and log on without going through the administrative staff.

[LordBucket]

not everyone's In-game name matches their forum name

I was unaware that the ability to change your ingame name wasn't a vanilla feature.

However, apparently it will be in 1.8.x.

Based on trends here, I doubt discipline will be a problem. As a small server, part of the Bay 12 community,
and tied to a knit group, all odds are against toxicity.

Well, ok. Maybe a whitelist will be sufficient.

[Aklyon]

Its never been a vanilla feature, thats why mojang has been setting up all this stuff like the uuids to make it one in the first place.

[Rose]

So nobody else is interested in the idea of at least part of the minecraft map based on a DF map?

[Elephant Parade]

So nobody else is interested in the idea of at least part of the minecraft map based on a DF map?

I think we should do that.

Also, I still don't see why we would need to have in-game names match forum names. Why not just have the OP keep a list matching names up?

Edit: Also, LordBucket, are you sure that you understand how names work? I can't just go out and make a new account and raid the server. Well, I could, but it would cost me $30.

[Mapleguy555]

So nobody else is interested in the idea of at least part of the minecraft map based on a DF map?

There used to be an old, old tool called DF2MC. It converted Fortresses into maps.