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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #12450 on: October 02, 2011, 06:22:51 pm »

I mean taking a diamond, converting it down to a ton of glowdust, changing that to glowstone, coverting that into iron ore, grinding the iron ore down to 2 dust, smelting that into iron bars, and then reforming them into more diamonds. I think you can get 2 diamonds for every diamond you convert.
I must have followed the wrong chain.  I converted 1 diamond and ended up with 6 gold bars, i.e. 1½ diamonds.  Still, money for nothing, chick(en)s for free.

Glowstone aggregators take only 3 minutes to convert glowdust, but about 4 minutes 10 seconds to convert dirt.
I've been converting redstone to glowdust, then auto-workbenching that to glowblocks.  Is that less efficient?
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #12451 on: October 02, 2011, 06:25:03 pm »

Glowstone aggregators take only 3 minutes to convert glowdust, but about 4 minutes 10 seconds to convert dirt.
I've been converting redstone to glowdust, then auto-workbenching that to glowblocks.  Is that less efficient?
According to the wiki, yes. It's a lot easier in general to aggregate glowdust anyway, a bit less messing around with converting.
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #12452 on: October 02, 2011, 06:49:12 pm »

My 'Urist' save is progressing well. I've held up a label to a converted patch of sand bar as a quarry and it's now officially my personal nearby quarry (with an enclosed canyon/ravine and a series of pits). Made my previously tree-less (starting with 1 tree) island flushed with trees (and a constantly active tree-farm), all this is to refine the cobblestone into stone bricks, and whatever remaining wood for planks for my Archipelago Highway system SB+WP+SB style.

I already connected with 2 islands now (spider cave and a grassy hill with a few neighbors), and am going to work on linking to the pine forest island. Already dedicated a good 800(x2) stone and 800+ wood, and a good 64(x2)-odd torches into the highway so far. It's looking nice, and it's been a good help for getting more resources. I'll see if I can upload a map of what I have so far built up.

EDIT:
That was quicker than I expected.

EDIT EDIT:
Connected to 2 more islands. YAY!

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I think I have more than enough material than I can fathom to get my highway completed (Current goal: Link up to Pine Island).
« Last Edit: October 02, 2011, 10:51:43 pm by Itnetlolor »
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #12453 on: October 02, 2011, 06:57:48 pm »

I've been converting redstone to glowdust, then auto-workbenching that to glowblocks.  Is that less efficient?
According to the wiki, yes. It's a lot easier in general to aggregate glowdust anyway, a bit less messing around with converting.
A bit of math shows you're right.

154 aggregator-minutes takes 154 redstone to 154 glowdust, convert to 32 glowblocks + 26 glowdust, convert to 1 diamond ore + 156 redstone, restart cycle.
129 aggregator-minutes takes 43 glowdust to 43 glowblocks, convert to 1 diamond ore + 11 glowblocks, convert to 1 diamond + 44 glowdust, restart cycle.

So at say 16 aggregators running at 100% power (glowstone blocks above, below, and on two sides), 8 minutes per diamond versus nearly 10 minutes per diamond.

EE's been fun, but when I upgrade to 1.9 plus IC² + BC + RedPower, and start a new world, I'm not going to put in EE.  Maybe I'll play with SDK's guns or Better Than Wolves, assuming they all get updated to 1.9.

Edit: Oh, hey, trees to diamonds.  64 logs, furnace to 64 charcoal, transmute to 64*3 redstone, transmute to 64 coal.  Transmute 12 dirt to 8 flint, make 8 coalballs, compress.  Transmute 2 dirt to 1 clay, make clayballs, make bricks, make brick block, make coalblock, compress.  Make a shovel out of the industrial diamond, transmute the shovel into a diamond.
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #12454 on: October 02, 2011, 07:49:32 pm »

My 'Urist' save is progressing well. I've held up a label to a converted patch of sand bar as a quarry and it's now officially my personal nearby quarry (with an enclosed canyon/ravine and a series of pits). Made my previously tree-less (starting with 1 tree) island flushed with trees (and a constantly active tree-farm), all this is to refine the cobblestone into stone bricks, and whatever remaining wood for planks for my Archipelago Highway system SB+WP+SB style.

I already connected with 2 islands now (spider cave and a grassy hill with a few neighbors), and am going to work on linking to the pine forest island. Already dedicated a good 800(x2) stone and 800+ wood, and a good 64(x2)-odd torches into the highway so far. It's looking nice, and it's been a good help for getting more resources. I'll see if I can upload a map of what I have so far built up.

EDIT:
That was quicker than I expected.

Oh man that is awesooooooome  :D

I just love bridges. Doubly so when they actually do something useful.

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« Reply #12455 on: October 02, 2011, 08:03:23 pm »

I've finished work on a more refined Monorail. It turns out that it can be much more simple than you realize. This can be found in the city of Tinker Town on the Lyoncraft server.
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Much smaller, very simple and can even carry people (sorta).
Is there something hidden in that?  I cannot reproduce it in 1.9pre2
I can't even see how that monorail works. No redstone torches below the pistons.
I was thinking it would work off a pulse, but I cannot reproduce it so...
Nothing is hidden in it, Well, nothing is hidden except one piece of redstone on the clock. here, lemme give you a closer look at the clock.
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It's important that you set it up so that one repeater is on and one is off like in the picture shown.

EDIT: If you still can't get it working come and look at mine at kaelserver.dyndns.org
I wasn't able to get it using your clock, but this one worked: (warning, Huge image...) http://i.imgur.com/uURHS.jpg
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #12456 on: October 02, 2011, 08:39:43 pm »

Glowstone aggregators take only 3 minutes to convert glowdust, but about 4 minutes 10 seconds to convert dirt.

http://equivalentexchange.wikispaces.com/Glowstone+Aggregator

I know, but is that extra 1 min 10 seconds worth the glowstone you put into the aggregators. Would the glowstone you save using dirt make up for the glowstone you lose when you refill the aggregators.
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #12457 on: October 02, 2011, 08:47:14 pm »

So how do I use the diamond pipe? I want to filter out cobblestone and dirt from my quarry and recycle it.
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« Reply #12458 on: October 02, 2011, 09:10:33 pm »

Attach 3 pipes to the diamond, one being the input, one cobblestone output and one other output. Then put a single block of cobblestone in the diamond pipe, in whichever colour is the one on the pipe going towards the cobblestone output pipe.
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« Reply #12459 on: October 02, 2011, 09:12:46 pm »

It filters the items towards the color you put them. Anything that's not in a color goes through as normal.
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« Reply #12460 on: October 02, 2011, 09:15:58 pm »

It filters the items towards the color you put them. Anything that's not in a color goes through as normal.
More accurately, anything that isn't filtered will go randomly to any attached pipe that is also unfiltered, excluding the one it came from.
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #12461 on: October 02, 2011, 09:46:33 pm »

heeeee, Equivalent Exchange works with Buildcraft. Now I'm using alchemy to make metals for machines.

It also works with Industrial Craft 2.  The interaction lets you double your diamonds, so you can get your Dark Matter stuff that much faster.
Yes but as far as I know IC2 isn't updated for 1.8+
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« Reply #12462 on: October 02, 2011, 10:58:55 pm »

Apparently the Clay Soldiers mod was updated? Awesome stuff. He could just use "zombies" that are given rotten flesh instead of "corrupted claymen" that are given the actually useful ender pearls, but it's still pretty good.

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« Reply #12463 on: October 02, 2011, 11:02:09 pm »

 Something about EE doesn't feel right with Industrialcraft. I can't really explain it. I guess the unintended design focus of Industrialcraft that Alblaka is not aware of himself is building sprawling complexes of machinery and infrastructure. Building various machines for a number of purposes, and providing the support to run them. Buildcraft complements that nicely, adding another level of infrastructure and complexity to managing machines.

 EE has a few chest and furnace objects I guess, but with no maintenance or infrastructure needed for them and a lot of reactions taking place automatically in inventories it feels like there is less emphasis on complex complexes. Yes you can make extended chains of automatic crafting benches which work alright, but once you hit the something of infinite density everything is channeled into one chest to automatically be converted into diamonds.

 It's an endgame item sure and I do feel resentment towards the Industrialcraft guys for emphasizing the endgame stuff instead of extending midgame stuff, but ultimately this is a sense of personal taste that is sour to me.
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #12464 on: October 02, 2011, 11:55:23 pm »

Why IC bugs me is it has many great ideas that are just not executed correctly.
I don't follow much of the MC community, but is someone making a rebalance of his work possible ?
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