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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #11040 on: August 15, 2011, 07:19:06 pm »

Before Minecraft, I used to defend gamers all the time against accusations that they had outrageous senses of entitlement.

These days, I wouldn't be surprised if the Minecraft community DDoSed minecraft.net because Notch didn't send everyone hand-written birthday cards.

Amen. Seriously, it's been 2 months tops since his last update (maybe less, haven't been able to play since the piston update :( ), that's nothing. Hell, what forum are we on? Doesn't anyone remember Toady's year long hiatus due to the backend rewrite?
Further, it's not like we've been kept entirely in the dark; he has released regular shots of new features, mobs, terrain and objects, not to mention regular twitter posts discussing newly implemented items. If a developer goes completely dark for 6 months, sure, maybe then you have something to complain about, but 2 months isn't even worth noticing, especially with the info we are getting.
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« Reply #11041 on: August 15, 2011, 07:21:45 pm »

Notch updates incredibly slowly now, I'm not sure if there is some humongous hurdle when running a world-known game company with a handful of devs that I don't see, but Notch could pump out sizable updates weekly way back when. He was on his own, too.

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« Reply #11042 on: August 15, 2011, 07:45:21 pm »

 It was a much smaller game with much smaller demands. He also didn't need to think of any other factors as it wasjust a hobby.
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« Reply #11043 on: August 15, 2011, 07:46:44 pm »

The delay is for a few, well-known reasons.

First, there's a complete overhaul of the core game, near as I can tell. The Adventure Update seems poised to more or less redefine Survival mode, or at least vastly change it. Major updates like this don't happen overnight, people.

Second, even though they're source hacks, the game now includes a large number of mods. And, in part because they're source hacks, mods break on every update. Fewer, larger updates are therefore far better from a modding perspective.

Seriously, guys, take a break, play something else for a few weeks.  ::)
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« Reply #11044 on: August 15, 2011, 09:05:27 pm »

Allow me to add to Thexor's comment, somewhat related to #2:

Third, The faster the updates are, the more often server admins have to re-update their stuff, which leads to more downtime overall and less being able to just turn it on and let it run as usual. For a vanilla server this is trivial, but for anyone with modloadermp or bukkit (or if they use MyMcAdmin, or some other remote administration program), its a lot to do, and the remote administers might have to wait for it to get updated on the other end unless they have FTP or such.
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« Reply #11045 on: August 15, 2011, 10:14:54 pm »

Bah, server admins always whining.  Why don't they just get off their fat asses and do work for free.  I have to play now!  >:(
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« Reply #11046 on: August 15, 2011, 10:58:24 pm »

Andir, you seem to be joking but if your not you need to be slapped right now and sent to your room with no internet for a week
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« Reply #11047 on: August 16, 2011, 02:15:41 am »

To me, it seems like most of the previous updates were "This would be cool to add!" and the Adventure Update is "I will finish the game now."
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« Reply #11048 on: August 16, 2011, 09:09:34 am »

Andir, you seem to be joking but if your not you need to be slapped right now and sent to your room with no internet for a week
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« Reply #11049 on: August 16, 2011, 09:49:51 am »

How about people stop complaining about Notchs time before the last update. Its not going to help anything, it'll only rush Notch to try and please the fans, leading to less planning and the need to skip over bugs and flaws in devlopement, leading to a worse game. Notch can take all the time he pleases for all I care, just as long as I get my super awsome game.

Besides, it could be far, FAR worse. THis has been talked about before, but Toady took 2 years to provide the 2010 update, giving us very little info about it in the time. But when it was released, I could not even begin to imagine the celebrations, and how good it was all together. Notch has not updated for only 2 months and has kept us constantly informed. This is a far better then what Bay12ers had to go through.

(( Sidenote: @Naxza I believe that in that the Alpha purchause deal also said we were entitled to get any DLC that may pop up for free as well, but I get your point. ))
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« Reply #11050 on: August 16, 2011, 09:52:13 am »

But Toady is Toady, and we know how he works. Notch is Notch, and we don't know how he does stuff. With Toady, we always know he's working on the game. Notch, we don't know.
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #11051 on: August 16, 2011, 10:33:00 am »

Eight hours before Mojang runs out of money, he sits down at a desk and scrawls something out on a scrap of paper, then crawls back into the company orgy pit.

The employees then take the note and attempt to decipher it, then add it to the game. For instance:

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« Reply #11052 on: August 16, 2011, 10:35:10 am »

Besides, it could be far, FAR worse. THis has been talked about before, but Toady took 2 years to provide the 2010 update, giving us very little info about it in the time. But when it was released, I could not even begin to imagine the celebrations, and how good it was all together. Notch has not updated for only 2 months and has kept us constantly informed. This is a far better then what Bay12ers had to go through.

http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/ gets info almost daily. Show me the equivalent from Notch and don't point me to Twitter. Toady gives us more than 140 characters. Notch's blog hasn't had any fundamental Minecraft changes since the bugfix a month ago and that's self proclaimed "95% Minecraft development."

2 years got DF more than a few block recolors. There were extreme changes in those two years.
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« Reply #11053 on: August 16, 2011, 10:58:31 am »

http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/ gets info almost daily. Show me the equivalent from Notch and don't point me to Twitter. Toady gives us more than 140 characters. Notch's blog hasn't had any fundamental Minecraft changes since the bugfix a month ago and that's self proclaimed "95% Minecraft development."

2 years got DF more than a few block recolors. There were extreme changes in those two years.

I am not sure what you are trying to prove to me. It sound irrelvent to what I am arguing.

Also, you should check the Forums news site. It has quite a some info about the 1.8 update, including the fact that Notch is adding Hunger and Thirst as an optional extra challange in the game. Also, Notch said himself he wanted to keep the vast majority of the new update a secret, there will be some 40+ things added in it.

Its most likely the biggest update. You know, its almost like Notch has spoiled you with so many recent updates. I would like the update too, but I also have the patience to wait for it, so it can be so very awsome.
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« Reply #11054 on: August 16, 2011, 12:19:30 pm »

 So I was reading through a chronicle of recent shenanigans from Mojang and I noticed something.

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Mojangs newest employee, Lydia Winters (the excellent Minecraft Chick for all those not keeping up!) wrote about the announcement in more detail on Mojang’s blog.
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Mojangs newest employee, Lydia Winters (the excellent Minecraft Chick

 What. The. Heck.

 I know there is more to a person than what they make videos about and she could very well be a very intelligent and talented worker for whatever job they have her for, but I have no damn idea what that would be. She spends a video figuring out wasd controls like it is something new to her. It takes her 50 episodes to finally reach diamonds. I understand that not everyone is a PC gaming veteran and that a lot of this stuff may be new to then, no problem to those who watch said videos and appreciate them. But such a person working at a game company? I dunno.
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