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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #10395 on: June 27, 2011, 01:00:52 pm »

If only Notch would allow the game to load terrain/item sprites from places other than their corresponding single sprite sheets.
Those 256-sprite limits are far, far too... limiting.

A modder has already started working on fixing it, of course, but it's tough going with the heavily obfuscated code.
When the hell is Notch going to open up that danged source?  :S
Also, why does he keep calling it an API?  Giving people access to the source is not an API in the slightest :|
Or did he change his mind about that again?
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« Reply #10396 on: June 27, 2011, 02:56:00 pm »

If only Notch would allow the game to load terrain/item sprites from places other than their corresponding single sprite sheets.
Those 256-sprite limits are far, far too... limiting.

A modder has already started working on fixing it, of course, but it's tough going with the heavily obfuscated code.
When the hell is Notch going to open up that danged source?  :S
Also, why does he keep calling it an API?  Giving people access to the source is not an API in the slightest :|
Or did he change his mind about that again?
Last I read, modders would be given NDA signed rights to the source code to make mods instead of having an API.
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #10397 on: June 27, 2011, 03:15:32 pm »

If only Notch would allow the game to load terrain/item sprites from places other than their corresponding single sprite sheets.
Those 256-sprite limits are far, far too... limiting.

A modder has already started working on fixing it, of course, but it's tough going with the heavily obfuscated code.
When the hell is Notch going to open up that danged source?  :S
Also, why does he keep calling it an API?  Giving people access to the source is not an API in the slightest :|
Or did he change his mind about that again?
Last I read, modders would be given NDA signed rights to the source code to make mods instead of having an API.
This is incrediblly silly.
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #10398 on: June 27, 2011, 03:55:37 pm »

If only Notch would allow the game to load terrain/item sprites from places other than their corresponding single sprite sheets.
Those 256-sprite limits are far, far too... limiting.

A modder has already started working on fixing it, of course, but it's tough going with the heavily obfuscated code.
When the hell is Notch going to open up that danged source?  :S
Also, why does he keep calling it an API?  Giving people access to the source is not an API in the slightest :|
Or did he change his mind about that again?
Last I read, modders would be given NDA signed rights to the source code to make mods instead of having an API.
This is incrediblly silly.

It's Notch, man. Less work for him (so he can work in more steak breakfasts and useless mechanics) is the way he's always going to go.
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #10399 on: June 27, 2011, 04:08:48 pm »

In his defense, steak breakfasts are delicious.

I'm not a developer, I've no real knowledge of what it takes to make a game and make it well, so I can't really say if he's doing well or not. But I am enjoying it, so he's not doing too bad.
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« Reply #10400 on: June 27, 2011, 04:38:02 pm »

Isn't Notch technically also working on Scrolls?
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #10401 on: June 27, 2011, 04:41:07 pm »

Isn't Notch technically also working on Scrolls?
I dunno, I think its mainly in the idea stage right now. Am I the only person who doesn't want a card based strategy game?
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #10402 on: June 27, 2011, 05:03:06 pm »

If only Notch would allow the game to load terrain/item sprites from places other than their corresponding single sprite sheets.
Those 256-sprite limits are far, far too... limiting.

A modder has already started working on fixing it, of course, but it's tough going with the heavily obfuscated code.
When the hell is Notch going to open up that danged source?  :S
Also, why does he keep calling it an API?  Giving people access to the source is not an API in the slightest :|
Or did he change his mind about that again?
Last I read, modders would be given NDA signed rights to the source code to make mods instead of having an API.
This is incrediblly silly.

Fundamentally, what would you recommend Notch do? I can hardly imagine an API that could perform half the things modders have managed to implement. We're talking about custom crafting interfaces; specialized block actions each game tick; customized AI interactions. This is doubly difficult because Minecraft wasn't built with modding in mind.

Honestly, the amount of work required to implement a fully-functioning API with even a tiny subset of the potential modders have already managed to achieve would far outweigh the benefits. Releasing the source code (even in a highly-limited fashion) is an efficient means of allowing modders all the same abilities they currently have.

Mind you, backwards compatibility will still be pretty challenging (though, without changing obfuscation on each release, some mods might not need to be updated between versions), but then again an API would require Notch to update and maintain each API call for any changed code. This would add a considerable amount of extra work to every release, whereas releasing the source code places the onus of updating into the hands of modders instead.
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #10403 on: June 27, 2011, 05:51:55 pm »

That said, even the simplest plugin manager in the launcher would be highly appreciated.
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #10404 on: June 27, 2011, 05:56:34 pm »

That said, even the simplest plugin manager in the launcher would be highly appreciated.

And/or integrating ModLoader. Lots of mods seem to work just fine from .minecraft/mods/, even a few that don't mention supporting it.
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #10405 on: June 28, 2011, 09:48:52 am »

That said, even the simplest plugin manager in the launcher would be highly appreciated.

And/or integrating ModLoader. Lots of mods seem to work just fine from .minecraft/mods/, even a few that don't mention supporting it.
Unless he does that, he'd better get to changing that "Mods and Texture Packs" button to read only "Texture Packs" pretty quick, as his idea of an API will never let that menu work.
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #10406 on: June 28, 2011, 10:06:21 am »

I would prefer he added a modloader and the API to make mods to work with that modloader.
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #10407 on: June 28, 2011, 10:11:25 am »

 And I would prefer that he makes the game free and grant world peace through gameplay.

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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #10408 on: June 28, 2011, 01:08:10 pm »

That's quite possible actually, with the game being free everyone will be playing it and there will be noone to fight anymore so it would be a win/win situation :D
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« Reply #10409 on: June 28, 2011, 05:12:03 pm »

Hmm... from a developer's standpoint, that's about as dangerous a concept as you can propose. Take a perfectly functional game that's sold a whole bunch of units, then make drastic changes. Screw up, and you've pissed off a very large and vocal fanbase. Succeed, and you still won't be selling any extra units to people who already own the game. It's kind of a lose-lose situation.  :-\


Still, the worst that happens from our perspective is we hold on to version 1.7 as the "Holy Grail of Minecraft", and the best that happens is we get an awesome update to an already-awesome game. So I guess I shouldn't complain too loudly.  ;)
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