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[Soulwynd]

Any chance for a non-java client?

Or a portable java client that doesn't need java RE?

>.>

[Tradanbattlan]

Oh god. The new mob sounds are utterly terrifying.

Getting the levels to support more than one player turned out to be a bigger rewrite than I thought. There was a surprising amount of level.getPlayer() calls, so I added a level.getNearestPlayer(x, y, z), which worked great as a substitute for most of the calls.
Another issue was the tile polling. In the original version, tiles between two players would get polled twice as frequently as tiles only near a single player. This also affected the mob spawner code. The solution there was to build a set of all unique chunks near players, which turns out to be handy when I do the memory caching of terrain data anyway.

I haven’t actually implemented any multiplayer support in the client yet, but I did do some work on it, which leads up to version 1.0.3:

* The pathfinder now works for hills. Except for spiders. Of course.
* Generally more convincing mob idling behavior. They’ll stand still more, looking around at their surroundings
* Monster sounds
* Ambient cave noises

Tomorrow is Thursday, then it’s Seecret Friday time, so it doesn’t seem like I’ll have anything testable this week.

The creepers now run around with their head looking down as if they were sad, enemies make different noises when you hit them, zombies moan and gurgle and there's all sorts of terrifying sounds in caves now.

[dwarfguy2]

new mob?

[Aqizzar]

New mob sounds.  And yeah, finally they won't all react with that weird Quake grunting sound.

Any chance for a non-java client?

Or a portable java client that doesn't need java RE?

Why not just get Java?  I haven't updated my Java client in like a year or two, and it works fine.

[Saint]

I'v decided to get minecraft when I get the money.
It's cheaper than Stalker, hopefully I will get the cash before it goes to 20$ because then I am going to have to decide again.

[Thexor]

Any chance for a non-java client?

Or a portable java client that doesn't need java RE?

>.>

No offense, but "non-Java client" isn't exactly an option. If you don't like Python, you don't ask every Python developer to port their code to COBOL. 

I assume you have an issue with the JRE, for some reason. May I ask why?

what's this i here about new features?

The newest (and most controversial) is "Redstone", which allows for cell-based programming. Today's blog post explains his motives, if you're interested (and previous posts have comments that explain the functionality).

Besides that, "new features" depend on when you last looked.  We've got minecarts now - is that 'new' for you?

but i heard about windmills and stuff. what's that?

Windmills exist only in an animated mock-up from SA, showing one way they could possibly work. Notch has said they look "interesting" (AFAIK), but that's it - they don't exist in-game yet. (Of course, windmills could be this week's "seecret Friday update"...)

[ToonyMan]

I'm going to get this as soon as possible, that being when I get my internet back so I could PLAY IT.  With my current luck so far that will be a hour after he doubles the price.

[Soulwynd]

Why not just get Java?  I haven't updated my Java client in like a year or two, and it works fine.

I absolutely hate it. It's really annoying to get rid of all the 'hidden' (actually, they're not so hidden, but there aren't options to disable them, at least there weren't last time I ever installed java in any machine, 2 years ago. I don't feel like finding out if it has changed either) services it installs after you install it. I should try to grab a non-install build somewhere with a simple command line java command.

Actually. I'm gonna go check if there's a manual install package somewhere.

No offense, but "non-Java client" isn't exactly an option. If you don't like Python, you don't ask every Python developer to port their code to COBOL. 

I assume you have an issue with the JRE, for some reason. May I ask why?

I didn't ask the developer. In fact, does the developer even see this?
It's not uncommon for other people to make clients of their own, even for indie projects like this. So I just asked if there were any chance of it. If not, that's fine.

Plus there are compilers for java that kills a JAR's dependency on the virtual machine. Which was part of my wondering, if anyone had bothered compiling it like that for the java-hating folk.

[Aqizzar]

Why not just get Java?  I haven't updated my Java client in like a year or two, and it works fine.

I absolutely hate it. It's really annoying to get rid of all the 'hidden' (actually, they're not so hidden, but there aren't options to disable them, at least there weren't last time I ever installed java in any machine, 2 years ago. I don't feel like finding out if it has changed either) services it installs after you install it. I should try to grab a non-install build somewhere with a simple command line java command.

Since I have no idea what other "services" Java installs that you're talking about, yeah I'm pretty sure you got gypped on some crazy third-party package.  That, or you're confusing the taskbar icon for some extra program, like I did.

[dragnar]

That taskbar icon just means Java is running. It is a program, but it shouldn't usually be there.

[Soulwynd]

There's the updater that runs even if disabled. You need to remove it as a service to get rid of it. At least you needed to back then. Then there's the virtual machine and yes if you don't tell it not to, it keeps the taskbar button running down there. Also if you run anything java in your browser and the virtual machine comes up. It wont turn back off after you have shut down your browser all together.

At least those were my issues back then. Apparently it is too much to hope for a simple "java.exe" command line like it used to be nearly a decade ago and nothing else.

And nope, they were all from the java.com site.

But I'm a well known javare hater even from back when I actually programmed in java. So I'm blowing it out of proportion with hate as usual.

I think I'm gonna snatch my laptop, which has java due to work reasons and rip only the needed bits to run minecraft and go with that.

[Thexor]

There's the updater that runs even if disabled. You need to remove it as a service to get rid of it. At least you needed to back then. Then there's the virtual machine and yes if you don't tell it not to, it keeps the taskbar button running down there. Also if you run anything java in your browser and the virtual machine comes up. It wont turn back off after you have shut down your browser all together.

At least those were my issues back then. Apparently it is too much to hope for a simple "java.exe" command line like it used to be nearly a decade ago and nothing else.

And nope, they were all from the java.com site.

But I'm a well known javare hater even from back when I actually programmed in java. So I'm blowing it out of proportion with hate as usual.

I think I'm gonna snatch my laptop, which has java due to work reasons and rip only the needed bits to run minecraft and go with that.

Well, as I've learned from my years on the internet, nothing's likely to change no matter how fiercely we argue. So I won't waste too much of my breath. 

Personally, though, I have no problems with it, and of everyone I know in computer science, software engineering, and the internet in general, I think you're the first person with serious complaints. You might try one of the non-Sun JREs (I don't think they work well with Minecraft, but I'd assume they do something...)

[Soulwynd]

Oh, Microsoft's java is even worse. I doubt it would run anything anyway. I don't even remember what was the other one. Wait, it was apple's java, no point in that either.

I've known a few java haters myself, from the computer industry as well. I know there are valid arguments towards java and that it's great in terms of portability, buuut... Personal opinions clouded with part experiences are a bitch...

So meanwhile I'm hacking through Java's install files. And wow, there's a JavaFX now too? Lets see if I can run minecraft barebone like this. *evil grin*

[Jay]

Unrelated: SMP has updated 2Realistic.
terrain.png

To use it, see my previous post about it.
You need to make an edit to the class files before you can use this.
EDIT: The things these people do...

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Pedobear Moon

Notch Sun

Cookie Sun

Creeper Moon

Minifigure Moon

[Saint]

I'm pissed.
It wouldn't accecpt my debit card so to prove it was working right I bought stalker COP off steam and I-fluid.
Turns out I was shorter on cash than I thought and don't even come close to having enough for Minecraft now.
Damn you paypal.
So I won't be getting it until at least october.