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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #18885 on: September 27, 2014, 12:23:14 pm »

Well, tense. Because starvation is a very real threat, and dirt is at a premium until you can get shears/a decent tree farm going. Which itself requires more dirt. So the until you get yourself set up comfortably, you're usually not all that far from starvation. Let's just say I'd never thought I'd actually ever wind up staring at a sapling intently as I have since I started the modpack.
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The two starting maps I DLed only had a small amount of dirt each. And genning a new world just leads to falling into a void.
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #18886 on: September 27, 2014, 01:03:29 pm »

Wait, which modpack are you guys discussing? Sounds worth trying.

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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #18887 on: September 27, 2014, 01:09:19 pm »

Agrarian Skies, a skyblock modpack with a quest system integrated, run off the FTB launcher.

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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #18888 on: September 27, 2014, 02:26:33 pm »

I never really liked the quest mod. I guess it's kinda fun sometimes, but eeeeehhh it feels really cheaty.

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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #18889 on: September 27, 2014, 03:05:10 pm »

Hm.... Downloaded Agrarian Skies through the FTB launcher. Started the game, created a world, and... died instantly. Then died instantly again. Then my world was deleted.

Are you supposed to die instantly? I appeared to be falling through space when it happened. Just blackness all around. Do you have to use their custom map?

I have noticed that when playing certain modpacks, such as Big Dig, I'm always falling through the world when I start the game. I have to quickly switch to creative mode and fly up a couple of blocks, then I land where I should be on the ground and switch back. Although this time it happened so quickly, there's no way I could have switched in time... What happened?

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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #18890 on: September 27, 2014, 03:12:25 pm »

Yes, indeed. The terrain generation is stripped out to create the void effect, and the custom maps give you your starting base to work from.

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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #18891 on: September 28, 2014, 03:38:22 am »

Aha, I see. That wasn't very clear in the mod description. Map seems to work, but I didn't have any time to try it last night. It seems I need to read a library of in-game books before I begin. I'll try it today. Wish me luck!

EDIT: Jesus, this is confusing. I tried to do the QDS quest, and now I'm stuck. I set the quest in the book, right-clicked the block, put the hopper on top, and fed the plank into the hopper. The QDS block turned back to plain (lost the Toad image on it), and in the book, the plank icon is marked as 100%. But there is no way to get my reward. No way to reset the quest, nothing. I tried breaking all the blocks and replacing them, but no go. Do I need to re-download the map and start from scratch now? What the hell happened? What's supposed to happen when you finish a QDS quest? There appears to be nothing I can do now. Frustrating.
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« Reply #18892 on: September 28, 2014, 05:47:54 am »

Aha, I see. That wasn't very clear in the mod description. Map seems to work, but I didn't have any time to try it last night. It seems I need to read a library of in-game books before I begin. I'll try it today. Wish me luck!

EDIT: Jesus, this is confusing. I tried to do the QDS quest, and now I'm stuck. I set the quest in the book, right-clicked the block, put the hopper on top, and fed the plank into the hopper. The QDS block turned back to plain (lost the Toad image on it), and in the book, the plank icon is marked as 100%. But there is no way to get my reward. No way to reset the quest, nothing. I tried breaking all the blocks and replacing them, but no go. Do I need to re-download the map and start from scratch now? What the hell happened? What's supposed to happen when you finish a QDS quest? There appears to be nothing I can do now. Frustrating.

That quest has a second stage as I recall. You don't get to keep the hopper as you must use the quest book to manually submit it back. Several quests have multiple stages which don't appear until after you've cleared the previous one.
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #18893 on: September 28, 2014, 07:09:07 am »

Yup, finally figured it out. Again, not very clear on the instructions -- I had to go find a youtube video of someone else doing it to figure it out (and he couldn't figure it out for ages either). Still, now that I'm past that stage, this is fun! There were no mobs for ages and I started to assume there simply wouldn't be any, though, and then suddenly there were 2 creepers, a skeleton, and a zombie all eating me. When I died, they guarded my stuff. Frustrated and not wanting to lose my progress while I was still learning how to play, I just set it on peaceful until I get my bearings.

What determines whether mobs can spawn, anyway? They didn't spawn until I put some wooden planks down to make a floor in the big open hole so I didn't fall to my death and had more room for tree saplings. Is there a way I can calculate it so that they don't spawn when I'm not ready or where I don't want them?

I like all the mods. They work really well together. I like the quest system, too. I don't know how it would be possible to survive with mobs on, though, at least in the beginning. I did finally realize I could make wooden armor, but it will be a long while before I get enough dirt to make enough stone to make a furnace so I can make torches, though.

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« Reply #18894 on: September 28, 2014, 07:47:38 am »

Yup, finally figured it out. Again, not very clear on the instructions -- I had to go find a youtube video of someone else doing it to figure it out (and he couldn't figure it out for ages either). Still, now that I'm past that stage, this is fun! There were no mobs for ages and I started to assume there simply wouldn't be any, though, and then suddenly there were 2 creepers, a skeleton, and a zombie all eating me. When I died, they guarded my stuff. Frustrated and not wanting to lose my progress while I was still learning how to play, I just set it on peaceful until I get my bearings.

What determines whether mobs can spawn, anyway? They didn't spawn until I put some wooden planks down to make a floor in the big open hole so I didn't fall to my death and had more room for tree saplings. Is there a way I can calculate it so that they don't spawn when I'm not ready or where I don't want them?

I like all the mods. They work really well together. I like the quest system, too. I don't know how it would be possible to survive with mobs on, though, at least in the beginning. I did finally realize I could make wooden armor, but it will be a long while before I get enough dirt to make enough stone to make a furnace so I can make torches, though.

Mob spawning is pretty much the same as vanilla (light level 7 or lower, and out of a certain range - 24 blocks I think? - of a player, are the immediately relevant rules). Because of the spawn islands' size you're mostly safe from mobs at first, unless you're either too far from the corners or too far from the house (using the Home Sweet Home map, these have spawnable spaces where you can be far enough away that mobs can appear). Of course once you do get out of range those spaces are the only spawnable ones in the world, so things will spawn unless you block them with a transparent block (slabs) or light.

One of the mods adds an overlay if you press F7 (by default) to show spaces which can spawn at night with a yellow X, and spaces which can spawn at any time with a red X.

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You will need to have mobs switched back on sometime though as farming mobs for resources is rather valuable, not to mention necessary for some quests. Bone meal can help speed through the painfully slow growth processes, rotten flesh can compost into dirt, and string is always useful (although you can get it via silkworms in this pack).
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Re: Minecraft - It has blocks.
« Reply #18895 on: September 28, 2014, 09:13:21 am »

Thanks for all the tips. I'm making some progress now. Got a reward pack full of "glowstone bricks" which give off light, so I guess I can use those to keep mobs away, and just make a small area for them to spawn to farm the resources. I'd turn them on if it wasn't hardcore, but I'm so ridiculously horrible at combat in Minecraft that I'd just die really fast and lose everything. : /

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« Reply #18896 on: September 28, 2014, 09:18:24 am »

Yup, finally figured it out. Again, not very clear on the instructions -- I had to go find a youtube video of someone else doing it to figure it out (and he couldn't figure it out for ages either). Still, now that I'm past that stage, this is fun! There were no mobs for ages and I started to assume there simply wouldn't be any, though, and then suddenly there were 2 creepers, a skeleton, and a zombie all eating me. When I died, they guarded my stuff. Frustrated and not wanting to lose my progress while I was still learning how to play, I just set it on peaceful until I get my bearings.

What determines whether mobs can spawn, anyway? They didn't spawn until I put some wooden planks down to make a floor in the big open hole so I didn't fall to my death and had more room for tree saplings. Is there a way I can calculate it so that they don't spawn when I'm not ready or where I don't want them?

I like all the mods. They work really well together. I like the quest system, too. I don't know how it would be possible to survive with mobs on, though, at least in the beginning. I did finally realize I could make wooden armor, but it will be a long while before I get enough dirt to make enough stone to make a furnace so I can make torches, though.

Mob spawning is pretty much the same as vanilla (light level 7 or lower, and out of a certain range - 24 blocks I think? - of a player, are the immediately relevant rules). Because of the spawn islands' size you're mostly safe from mobs at first, unless you're either too far from the corners or too far from the house (using the Home Sweet Home map, these have spawnable spaces where you can be far enough away that mobs can appear). Of course once you do get out of range those spaces are the only spawnable ones in the world, so things will spawn unless you block them with a transparent block (slabs) or light.
This reminds me of the ocean world me and some other dudes made on one of Forsaken's old servers. There were two islands, and one was walled off and dark so mobs would only spawn there.
We built a massive tower and used our portal guns to kill mobs and farm stuff :P
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« Reply #18897 on: September 28, 2014, 09:56:42 am »

Ugh, this sucks...
I found an good seed for the style of game I want to play. Added a few mods to the pack which don't change world gen, but when I regen the world the village buildings are not the same. I regenned after a break and the buildings changed again...
Whats going on???

Gen 1 : Brewers+TC Furnace.
Gen 2 : (Added Mod) : Farm+Farmhouse (Repeated.)
Gen 3 : Grapefield + Gravekeepers (Repeated. Spawn Moved)
Gen 4 : Brewers + Apothecary. (Repeated.)

What makes the Village buildings change???
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« Reply #18898 on: September 28, 2014, 11:09:18 am »

Got my wither skeleton farm set up, now have 10+ nether stars even after using them for various and sundry things. I dunno what to do with them all. I'm using the Yogscast Complete pack, which has essentially every mod on Earth (and one on the moon), and there's still hardly anything to do with nether stars.
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« Reply #18899 on: September 28, 2014, 11:10:21 am »

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