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[qwertyuiopas]

1,2,5,9,10: Blame/ask a/the mapper/s.

3: I personally think it is fine the way it is. If there is enough demand though, I could add it... Though it really invalidates the point of setting the input level. And makes engine noob an easier job.

4: The pipes naturally leak heat to the turf, that is intended. MAybe add insulated pipes that have a lower rate? Regardless, the only reason it doesn't bake the whole room is that heat only transfers with airflow, and there is little/none without a pressure leak. Also, blame a mapper for any irresponsibly placed pipes.

6: There are some, but the file with them is disabled. Probably broken or something. Problem somewhat solved by the new addition of solar panel construction and the supply shuttle having power cells as one of the supplies that can be called.

7: A SMES cannot have a priority. However, you could ask a mapper to give the AI a very small solar array, so that if power is cut completely, they regain power after a long time of inactivity...

8: This is *possible*, but this gives engineers an easy way to spot certain traitor meddlings and it makes the game a bit too easy for engineers.

[qwertyuiopas]

Sorry i meant speed not angle. If its at the same speed as the sun then it shouldn't change right?

Not quite, the sun moves in increments spaced apart, while the solar panels constantly move.
It moves at .75 to 1.25 units per 10 seconds, recalculated every 50 seconcd giving 3.75 to 6.25 degrees every 50 seconds.

However, possibly the solution you would want is to ensure a guarenteed multiple of 5 seconds for it to rotate 5 degrees?

[Mono124]

Wall of text, didn't want it taking up a huge amount of space.

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1,2,5,9,10: Blame/ask a/the mapper/s.

1 would probably also need a coder to copy the prototype engines injector thing (the name eludes me) and add on a code that makes it break after a while.

3: I personally think it is fine the way it is. If there is enough demand though, I could add it... Though it really invalidates the point of setting the input level. And makes engine noob an easier job.

Ah... Well i sort of think in the context of "this is a space station where you can create huge explosions with small bombs and revive people and use cloaking devices etc. etc." so i figured that by now they would have the ability to have the input level auto determined, with maybe a manual override.

4: The pipes naturally leak heat to the turf, that is intended. MAybe add insulated pipes that have a lower rate? Regardless, the only reason it doesn't bake the whole room is that heat only transfers with airflow, and there is little/none without a pressure leak. Also, blame a mapper for any irresponsibly placed pipes.

True, but that also means that the air isn't realistic at all. Maybe add some kind of air movement system with vents and such? Of course, that would mean a lot of coding, mapping, creating of objects, etc. and could cause lag, but would be more realistic with a space station. I mean, if a fire goes off in a hallway and it gets really hot, you have to manually move siphons to the area or else it will take FOREVER to dissipate the heat and toxins.

6: There are some, but the file with them is disabled. Probably broken or something. Problem somewhat solved by the new addition of solar panel construction and the supply shuttle having power cells as one of the supplies that can be called.

Ah, well that's ok. Still though, a portable power storage unit could come in handy, especially when you might have to power areas that have a very high power consumption rate. There are a couple areas that eat up battery power so quick that you have about <20 seconds to do what you want before power is completely eaten up. (I was figuring that the power storage unit would be about the size of a portable siphon, and therefor would have more power in it than a battery but less then a storage unit. Could also be charged from charging areas or being hooked up to a storage unit)

7: A SMES cannot have a priority. However, you could ask a mapper to give the AI a very small solar array, so that if power is cut completely, they regain power after a long time of inactivity...

Ah, the problem with a solar array is that it would have to be set up, and of course the A.I. area is pretty enclosed so power would be limited. Maybe a addition to the SMES code that allows priority or for the A.I. to be disabled instead of dead until it's system comes back on? It could also have a set of doors to enter where the A.I. actually is, so that you can manually change the SMES's settings.

8: This is *possible*, but this gives engineers an easy way to spot certain traitor meddlings and it makes the game a bit too easy for engineers.

Didn't think about that. But then again, it is easy to spot traitor meddlings anyway considering that if you walk up to the computer and it says that power available is 0 then someone cut power lines or turned off input/output.

[Micro102]

That might be better. But i don't really care.

[Trorbes]

1,2,5,9,10: Blame/ask a/the mapper/s.

I guess that's my cue.

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1 ) A back-up engine, sort of like the prototype engine, except that the hardware will break after X amount of time? (Would help when engineers are lazy/don't know what they are doing, or you decide to load the engine the "correct" way (you hook up the plasma and o2 instead of launching it))

I don't honestly see the point of making a third engine.  If the main engine breaks or is unusable, or even not, people always go for the prototype engine.  If anything truly cataclysmic happens to both engines, chances are the shuttle was already called.

And ultimately, I don't like the idea that it's supposed to intentionally break after use.  That not only defeats the purpose of the "backup" aspect of a backup engine, but would only make it even more worthless and unused.

2 ) More power storage units, or backup power storage units that start off X% full but must be toggled to output?

I would only do that if the general playing population agreed with it.  Everyone seemed to disagree on how many/where to place/if there even should be extra emergency internals on the station, and I can only imagine the arguments on the extra power those SMESs would add.

4 ) Fix engines extreme heat problems... I don't like walking into engine room after it's been started and everything is fine, and then I walk onto the heating loop pipe and insta-die. (although it may be hilarious, it isn't fun)

I added heat suits and internals in the engine room for a reason, so you should probably make use of them for now.  There's nothing I can do, although I tried to keep the pipe clutter to a minimum to make it less likely to fry you when crossing the room or trying to access the generator.

5 ) Connect toxins to the rest of the stations power grid! It sucks when no-one sets up the solar arrays at toxins (the only source of power i think) and toxins go dark after 5 minutes of game play! If I am playing a toxins researcher I always have to have my character minor in engineering/station repair so i can hook up toxins to the rest of the grid. This would also take the least amount of time to fix! It's just laying down some wires when you next map something!

I could easily scrap or redesign the Toxins generator room, since the idea of Toxins being a separate "mini-station" has kind of been scrapped, in implementation.

7 ) Make A.I.'s power storage unit be automatically charging, and have it take precedence over every other power unit if there is an A.I.. It really sucks when half way through the game the A.I. dies because it either didn't set up its power storage unit, or the generator wasn't making enough power for all the units.

I could probably add another SMES or two, but trying to connect solar panels to the AI would be a pain as it is all but completely surrounded by other structures.  Alternatively, I could hook up the AI to the main grid itself, but that would also connect the AI SMES to it, so while it would be able to supply the AI if it's cut off from the grid, a power failure would only result in the station using the AI's juice.

9 ) Get rid of the plasma leak in the teleporter room, please? It's really annoying when someone just decides to open the teleporter room up, and someone else runs through with a welder or something. It kills the game, especially when the shuttle is coming and it traps half/all the crew.

That's been gone for a while, now.

10 ) Move the prototype engine to inside the station, but make it have like 4 sets of doors and have them bolted with A.I. control off (or in other words make it hard to get to, or make it not completed all the way (walls missing and floor tiles and wires and such)). I think it is really ridiculous that an engine that far from the station can be supported by a small pathway of tiles. An engine is supposed to be heavy (or since space is weightless, it would have a lot of mass) and that really wouldn't work.

There is no friggin' room to put the entire prototype engine anywhere in the station, to be honest.  I struggle with keeping the things we already have fit, and I ultimately just want to scrap it and create a new map without all the clutter.

Besides that, there's no reason that the proto engine can't be supported by a walkway, especially if it were synchronized with the station (or if the station is stationary).  And I like that the engine is separate from the station itself, giving it a half-completed, unintegrated "pet project" that the engineers have been putting together in their spare time.

[Trorbes]

Speaking of, a few design ideas I have regarding a new map.

• The AI would have its own little station.  It would be accessible in some way from the main station, but other than that it would be separate.
• The station would work best if divided into sections; the common area (crew quarters, the bar, the chapel, and medbay), research (toxins and medical research),  maintenance (atmospherics, engineering, the janitor and the firestation), and administrative (security and the bridge).
• The floor plan would be more specific to the area - the common area and administrative would have wide-open corridors and large rooms, while maintenance would have cramped rooms, tight corridors, and a very utilitarian layout.  Research would of course be between the two in design.
• Perhaps the inclusion of several security stations around the station, nothing more than a small holding cell and a security closet, but would allow security to not have to run around the whole station dragging criminals.
• The arrival/escape shuttles would land in a docking bay, somewhere near administrative.  A checkpoint would be near the arrival shuttle to assign new arrivals (the current station has this already, but almost everyone just goes to the courtroom for assignment now).
• I want a garden area in the common area, a proper one.  It would mostly be just for aesthetic, although maybe some plant turf there could convert CO2 into O2 in the surrounding area.  It would make sense to keep some plants on the station both for beauty and for air recycling.  Perhaps the garden could have other uses, too (medicinal/chemical properties of plants, maybe a Gardener job).

[Apple Master]

I'm not sure, but given the higher calibre of roleplay on this server, perhaps late joiners would have to be allowed onto the main station by security (Or perhaps a "Guards Man" who can open the checkpoint door). This would decrease rabid assistants going crazy,
I'll do a mock up next week, after my horriday.

[cib]

Perhaps the inclusion of several security stations around the station, nothing more than a small holding cell and a security closet, but would allow security to not have to run around the whole station dragging criminals.

Er, I actually think it's good the way it is. If it gives people a chance to get away, I think that's good, too, criminals want to do a living on the station, too :p

[Dr. Johbson]

To sum up everything so far-

Good work Qwerty, apperciated. But, did you change anything to the map it self? Because I added a few things. (A new Courtroom, a larger brig, removed brig gas room, that thing was stupid, and a few things to the bridge.)

Yes, Trobes, now that I know how to map, I shall now soon start on making a complete NEW station for us all.

Mono, I can fix the toxin powergrid when I get back on my PC. Should be in about an hour. I can then host, too.

[Dwarfaholic]

Also, please lengthen the cold loop. Please.

[Dr. Johbson]

Will do.

[Dwarfaholic]

Thanks, dude. The Engine's output is really... inoptimal... without a sufficiently long cold loop.

[Apple Master]

I'm just shooting this out, and it wouldn't be instant, But if I got a space on a dedicated server, would you guys be interested ? The same people would be admins and such.. I wouldn't even have to be one

[tp12]

I've got a question for everybody at the bay12 server, I recently got banned from Android Data's server because I was accused of leaking the source code.
Although I did download the source after discovering the login on his site was broken (I downloaded it to check if it wasn't a bogus link) I did not redistribute it, and was planning on reporting it when I had a chance to speak to Data.
But before I had that chance, within my 8 hours of sleep, the source was leaked by someone else leaving me the blame.
I was just wondering if anybody here is pissed at me for that, and whether or not I'm still welcome at the bay12games server.

[Dr. Johbson]

The server will be up soon guys. Sorry for the wait.

I've got a question for everybody at the bay12 server, I recently got banned from Android Data's server because I was accused of leaking the source code.
Although I did download the source after discovering the login on his site was broken (I downloaded it to check if it wasn't a bogus link) I did not redistribute it, and was planning on reporting it when I had a chance to speak to Data.
But before I had that chance, within my 8 hours of sleep, the source was leaked by someone else leaving me the blame.
I was just wondering if anybody here is pissed at me for that, and whether or not I'm still welcome at the bay12games server.

Their code got leaked? Eh, sucks for them. But I can't blame you, so, I say you're still welcome here anytime, although I do feel sorry for them. Nothing anyone can do for that, though.