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[Shadowgandor]

Wait, you agree with him about restricting literal exploits and easter eggs and then say there shouldn't be any restrictions to knowledge?
The Chaplain might be the traitor and it would make sense that he's a trained guy.

When I said no restrictions to knowledge, I assumed you'd understand I didn't mean gamebreaking knowledge, because I put it right there in my post that I agreed with qwerty that gamebreaking knowledge should not be shared out.

Keep up.

Hence the ''.
 I say just release all recipes harmful or not. If there are people using the knowledge to do grief, then those people were most likely going to grief anyway. Everyone knows how to make bombs but does it happen often on this server? Not really.

And with literal exploits, the only thing I can think off is the supercold area glitch/bug.

Easter eggs? Places on other Z-levels?

edit: Beorn just brought up another example of an exploit

[Shadowlord]

Cernunnos: I don't know anything about that. When I joined it was open-source, and when I left it was open-source. You can't really change code that someone has contributed under one license to another license without their permission, either. I attempted to visit ss13.net earlier, but it just redirects to the goons' wiki, too.

Of course, the license being LGPL, there's no provision stating that you have to release the source when you host a server, so you're not violating the license by hosting servers, as long as everyone hosting a server has access to the source.

Side note: The prototype engine itself is almost an exploit, which is why it was intentionally incomplete when I designed the first version of it on the original map (I don't know if it was left incomplete about on your map, haven't visited the prototype engine on it yet). By having only a couple reaction squares all the reaction mass is concentrated into those squares. Since the engine floor is fireproof, it doesn't break no matter how hot it gets, and the more oxygen and plasma in a square the hotter the square gets, and the hotter the square gets, the more energy output you end up with, essentially. (I built the first prototype engine on the original map after looking at the fire code, and thinking "Hey, you know, that means the entire engine is horrifically inefficient... What if it was designed like this instead...". It's only called a "prototype" for RP purposes, of course.)

[Jackrabbit]

[snip]

Oh, okay. So it turns out we agreed with each other all along.

Yeah, recipes don't fall under 'gamebreaking' for me, deadly or not. You're right in that if someone is going to grief with them, they were always going to, and it's an issue for the admins.

[ReaperSWE]

H2O Waterbottles Inc!

[Sukasa]

Those bottles seem a bit too large, are IRL water bottles bigger than your arm?

[Jackrabbit]

For those sort of water bottles?

Yeah, they are actually that large. 1.5 liters, if I remember correctly.

[head]

Too bad open source = a bunch of copy servers stealing credits from the true owners and may look like ever server is represent of bay12 thus reflecting that crap onto here.

[Matz05]

Too bad open source = a bunch of copy servers stealing credits from the true owners and may look like ever server is represent of bay12 thus reflecting that crap onto here.

Some kind of a hard-to-remove identifiable tag on "Unoficial" versions. I would just like to try to host a server alone so I can experiment as an Admin.

[Pick Yer Poison]

Done proofreading all the new stuff. Poke me if I missed something.

[Pillow_Killer]

Too bad open source = a bunch of copy servers stealing credits from the true owners and may look like ever server is represent of bay12 thus reflecting that crap onto here.

Some kind of a hard-to-remove identifiable tag on "Unoficial" versions.

Hahahaha
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BWHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA
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lol.

[alfie275]

I'm pretty sure Goons stole their code from Data.

Also, if we were to make it open source it would be like:
Bay12 makes something awsome -> Goon steals it.

So yeah.
I dislike Goons.

Disclaimer:Any views I post are my own views and not representative of Bay12 games, Bay12 games servers or their administrators.

We could release binaries I suppose, might be some free advertising.

[head]

No goon bashing not here not on the servers.

it just provokes.

We will most likely never release source,host version or anything like that.

[Jackrabbit]

No goon bashing not here not on the servers.

Quoted for emphasis.

[Matz05]

Binaries are good. Theres no BYOND decompiler right?

[Pillow_Killer]

I'm pretty sure Goons stole their code from Data.

Also, if we were to make it open source it would be like:
Bay12 makes something awsome -> Goon steals it.

So yeah.
I dislike Goons.


We could release binaries I suppose, might be some free advertising.

...Jesus christ. As much as I dont like nor data, nor GS13... YOu just... hahahha.. Please, stop posting about shit you dont even know. People liek you make BS12 look bad.