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[quinnr]

I never said that.
That was an admin impersonating me. The admins annoy me, but I'm not gonna report you to BYOND for that.

[Micro102]

I can assure you that your servers give off much worse vibes.

What your doing is plainly wrong, maybe even illegal. And legal action can be taken against it. You will see that when BYOND steps in. Hopefully before some 3rd party does.

[quinnr]

Also, you can tell that is not me, because I would never use a lowercase "i" as a pronoun.
The 'feature' of admins being able to impersonate players in OOC shouldn't even be in there in the first place.

[beorn080]

Well, Quinn, technically we can do that in BS12 too. Its an admin debug tool.

[quinnr]

Really?
What does it debug though? I vote for removal, although we don't abuse it like "some people".

[Vinny]

I honestly think you kids should take a breather, calm down, sit back and let those filthy heathens dig their own hole.  These articles should give you a little perspective here.

quinnr, you don't need to worry about that slight upon your good name any more - you won't be coming back to the Goon servers so you hopefully won't need to be exposed to any more of those atrocious displays of the human anatomy.

[beorn080]

Vinny, its not that we see it, its that according to TOS, you don't have to be 18 to play, and thus you expose them to a potential lawsuit via posting pornographic pictures in your game.

They won't sue, though.

[Ostaf]

I can assure you that your servers give off much worse vibes.

What your doing is plainly wrong, maybe even illegal. And legal action can be taken against it. You will see that when BYOND steps in. Hopefully before some 3rd party does.

Sorry, what is illegal? Someone pretending to be a different player in an online game? Or a picture of a penis on the internet? If these are illegal, i'm sure our case will be at the bottom of a veeeeeeeeery long list!

PS: "Unfortunately, we don't have the manpower (or legal jurisdiction, in some cases) to deal with issues between users.

BYOND staff merely provide the tools to create and play games, and a website to display them on; the games themselves are created and run by users, for users. As such, we don't have any control over their content or management."

[head]

Please stop spamming in this topics if you wanna talk get a room or whatever.

[qwertyuiopas]

Really?
What does it debug though? I vote for removal, although we don't abuse it like "some people".

There is the advanced proccall that can run any proc on any object.

/mob/verb/ooc(text) is a proc, a player's mob is an object.

You see what I'm getting at? Regardless of if there is a direct way to speak for players, you would be eliminating one of the most versatile and powerful debugging tools just because of the potential for abuse.

[beorn080]

Ya didn't have ta tell him. I demonstrated its use in game already on him.

Ostaf, simply, pornographic images are supposed to be behind warnings. Having one in the middle of a game hosted on a site that says that porn isn't on it is not a good idea.

[Googolplexed]

Yeah, the whole point of admins is to moderate the game.
If they abuse functions like proccall, they shouldn't be an admin.

We could always set proccall to only be enabled for coders though

[Vinny]

Ostaf, simply, pornographic images are supposed to be behind warnings. Having one in the middle of a game hosted on a site that says that porn isn't on it is not a good idea.

Stop trying to make up rules, thanks in advance.

[Googolplexed]

Byond TOS and not us

2. CONDUCT
Once you become a BYOND Member, your BYOND Member site is yours to use as you wish, with a few limitations. BYOND will not accept sites with clearly pornographic content (as determined solely by the judgment of the BYOND Staff) or with content that causes a significant use of bandwidth for purposes that don't benefit the BYOND community in some manner acceptable to the BYOND Staff. It is your sole responsibility to ensure your site's content does not break any laws or contracts.

It probebly extends to the hub entry. Theres nothing they could do about the actual server though

[Ostaf]

Byond TOS and not us

2. CONDUCT
Once you become a BYOND Member, your BYOND Member site is yours to use as you wish, with a few limitations. BYOND will not accept sites with clearly pornographic content (as determined solely by the judgment of the BYOND Staff) or with content that causes a significant use of bandwidth for purposes that don't benefit the BYOND community in some manner acceptable to the BYOND Staff. It is your sole responsibility to ensure your site's content does not break any laws or contracts.

It probebly extends to the hub entry. Theres nothing they could do about the actual server though

Yes. That is for the websites they host, not the games - that's why they say "sites", not "servers" or "games". (ps. I added you to our tester list because you didn't seem like a complete retard when you were on the other day)