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[Servant Corps]

If it was some company I had never heard of I would be very skeptical, but this is Bioware. Though not without error, they've done some consistently good and innovative games. The DM client in Neverwinter Nights has to be the most innovation I've ever seen in the genre, yet it was sadly under utilized.

So I am cautiously hopeful that it won't suck. I really wish they'd make a not-massively multiplayer online game. I always preferred playing in small servers of <100 people, or servers with just friends or folks I know, where we had total control over the game if we felt one part was abysmally boring and needed to be skipped, or if we wanted to go back and do something again we could.

I am totally with you on this concept. Imagine if they made a remake of the NWN1 concept with an easy to use and powerful DM client that you could use to run small game servers based on the Star Wars universe...i orgasm at the thought.

I find very few games these days to be original enough, player made worlds like we still see in NWN1 are some of the best times i have in games, even today.

But if that happens, then...anyone can create canon. LucasArts can very well be mortified!

[Ioric Kittencuddler]

!!!necro!!!  Has anyone seen this trailer?

http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/hope-cinematic-trailer

Short version: Holy shit...


Long version(explicit language warning):

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Holy fucking shit!  That was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen!  It's like, they decided to take things to a whole new level... I knew Bioware writing was stupid... but this... there are no words...  Ok, that's not entirely true.

I'm a badass clone trooper commander fighting against the evil Galactic Empire.  I charge into battle without a fucking helmet because I'm just that badass!  Alright fellow clone troopers, prepare to attack the melee focussed enemy down bellow us!  Am I still not wearing my helmet?  Good.  Alright men... ready... Abandon your vantage points and charge into close combat with the lightsaber wielding enemy!!!  Yar, we're all getting sliced up but at least we look badass!  Hey what's that?  A Sith without a helmet!  No fair!  I'm the one who doesn't wear a helmet!  I shoot you!!  What?  The first shot didn't kill you?!  In that case I had better drop my rocket launcher and charge barehanded, knocking over 2 other sith in the process and then get paralyzed by your lightning only then to realize I should at least draw my knife!!!  Well, that was pointless!  Wow, I'm genuinely surprised by how badly that turned out... yep, looks like I got my entire squad slaughtered...  Oh, now you're going to kill me?  I thought we we had an understanding...  Holy Deus Ex Machina batman, a Jedi just appeared out of nowhere and did something weird which caused all the sith around me to die and go flying off in different directions!!  Wow, she's badass!  Oh wait she's a girl jedi nevermind... She's going to need me to save her ass.  But first, thanks for the gun magically appearing live squadmate who wasn't there a moment before!  Let's shoot at nothing!

Seconds later....

Oh noes.  The girl jedi is unsurprisingly losing to the sith because even when they can block lightsabers with their bare hands it's just a cheesy hype gimmick and female jedi always suck unless they're controlled by the player and then it's not considered canon!  Don't worry little girl!  I'll drop my gun and charge the sith lord barehanded again!  But wait, ahah!  You thought I was barehanded, but really I remembered to draw my melee weapon first!  A hand grenade!  Oh wai- BOOM!

Ugh... what happened?  The last thing I remember I was going to beat a sith lord to death with an active energy grenade and now my face is covered in badass scars...  What's that little girl?  You killed him?   BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA That's not funny.  Gimme head ho.

[fenrif]

I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but that description makes it sound terrible.

[Ioric Kittencuddler]

Well that's why it's spoilered.  Seriously have you seen it?  You can't really consider it properly without seeing the glorious eye candy.

[Virex]

I have only watched the first few seconds of the trailer, but I can already say that they put so much work in the art that the rest of the game can only suck. Also, the game's graphics are going to be of Half-Life level because they can't have much money left for developing after that trailer.

[Ioric Kittencuddler]

You should watch the rest.  It's actually sort of funny.

[Hugehead]

You should watch the rest.  It's actually sort of funny if you watch it after reading my captioning.

Fixed

[Ioric Kittencuddler]

Well, I was thinking before reading my captioning.  It's really not that good in my opinion.  The captioning I mean.  If I really wanted to I could probably do better.  I was just doing a summary.

[Hugehead]

Well you never notice some of the things unless you read your captioning.And its great for the lols

[Pathos]

SW:TOR is going to suck. Just like Mass Effect sucked (repetitive, crappy shooting mechanics, great) and like Dragon Age sucked wasn't as good as Baldur's Gate. I've mentioned before that Bioware has massive amounts of derivation in their plotline, from their own games and other sources. eg. Dragon Age's world was pretty much the Prince of Nothing series' world with a cheesy plotline ripped from KotOR.

Also, lol @ kamehamehaaaaa in that video.

[Chutney]

Just saw a gameplay trailer and you know I'm not really sure I like the direction they're going with this new expansion pack... World of Warcraft should stick to the past, lasers and space are just over doing it (ignoring the Draenei).

[Aqizzar]

Good God, that video was thick enough to choke on.  And somehow, beyond all my problems with the direction (bum rushing a Sith lord, grenades that do jack, Jedi kamehameha power, and the utter narm of the whole thing), still my biggest question is, why not grow some balls and stop pretending that this is supposed to be another time period?  Just set the whole thing between episodes 3 and 4 and have done with it already.

[Servant Corps]

Just saw a gameplay trailer and you know I'm not really sure I like the direction they're going with this new expansion pack... World of Warcraft should stick to the past, lasers and space are just over doing it (ignoring the Draenei).

There's already an expansion pack? The real game hasn't even been released yet, right?

[fenrif]

Just saw a gameplay trailer and you know I'm not really sure I like the direction they're going with this new expansion pack... World of Warcraft should stick to the past, lasers and space are just over doing it (ignoring the Draenei).

There's already an expansion pack? The real game hasn't even been released yet, right?

I think he was making a joke about how much like WoW this game is.

I'm kind of torn now after E3. As much as I hate the direction they're taking this game (DPS/tank/healer jedis, pre-written narrative over player-driven stuff, etc) there are a few things about this that really intruige me. The way conversations work in groups looks awesome, you all vote on the response you want, and whichever gets the most votes is what happens. Theres a few little things like that which really interest me, but I'm not sure how well the rest of the game will work.

I think doing it class based instead of skill based is a really stupid move. I really don't think it works well with the star wars universe at all.

[Chutney]

Just saw a gameplay trailer and you know I'm not really sure I like the direction they're going with this new expansion pack... World of Warcraft should stick to the past, lasers and space are just over doing it (ignoring the Draenei).

There's already an expansion pack? The real game hasn't even been released yet, right?

I think he was making a joke about how much like WoW this game is.

that it was.
agreeing with fenrif: did they seriously need to include roles to it? I don't remember Luke healing, or troopers tanking. Like, okay: players taking the role they want is okay, but having the game enforce a system where you need certain roles is crazy. never leave town without a tank, healer, 3 damage dealers! Every group needs a storm trooper to stand there and somehow force the enemy to want to attack them instead of the dudes wearing dresses (easy targets?). Smugglers stand off to the side and take potshots at whoever, and none of the enemies catch on that they should probably deal with him?

I have an aggro system: Whoever is wearing the most vibrant/flamboyant clothes gets attacked the least, because the enemies believe they're poisonous. This is superior to the current "I called you names, now you HAVE to attack me" dominating every non-Guild Wars MMO (as far as I'm aware. If anybody knows of another one, let me know)