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[viskaslietuvai]

I blame the removal of corporeal punishment.

I agree we need to refocus our punishment away from the incorporeal such as ghosts and spirits. Punish the solid!
Oh you meant corporal punishment. I'm against that. I thought you were talking about zombies and such.

[Heron TSG]

It is not hard to BS a paper. I wrote my ethics & strategic leadership paper on Dwarf Fortress, in a very strict uni, and I got a distinction for that paper

Holy cow. I must try this.

[Muz]

It is not hard to BS a paper. I wrote my ethics & strategic leadership paper on Dwarf Fortress, in a very strict uni, and I got a distinction for that paper

Holy cow. I must try this.

I wouldn't recommend it though. When you write an academic paper on a game, it becomes work. I haven't played DF through ever since I did that

[Muz]

Haha, I BS'ed a lab report last week - it was supposed to be like 10 pages, but I got lazy and took pictures (instead of drawing graphs), wrote just 4 pages, didn't even put an introduction and conclusion, and I got a distinction for it.

[Oksbad]

It is not hard to BS a paper. I wrote my ethics & strategic leadership paper on Dwarf Fortress, in a very strict uni, and I got a distinction for that paper

Win.



.......Do you have a copy? 

[Muz]

Yes, but I did lame things. Like building safety grates in the reservoir. And quoting some of you guys. I'm ashamed to show it to DF players.. that's like a guy showing a romance novel to his wife.

[Awayfarer]

One of my prof's was actually talking about a trend in some universities in nudging students grades a bit. Basically student=customer, and they don't want the customer to be unhappy, so professors are told to boost test scores, etc.

Keep that in mind if you're handing in shit work and getting good grades.

[Aqizzar]

The professor of the same class these papers were for actually harps about that a lot.  He despises other professors, all students, and the entire modern university culture, precisely because of the sense of perfunctory entitlement so many people have.

Some examples.  As he told us today, coming into his office at the end of the semester to plead for a better grade will more likely earn a worse one, especially for people who don't show up for class, or insist they "don't get bad grades."  In response to the abysmally poor term papers, he's offering an extra credit paper, and making half the final a do-it-at-home essay.  Both will be graded as much on being legible English as their content.

[Muz]

Actually, I do plead for a better grade, but I do it subtly. Like hanging out with the professor, talking about things like building death rays out of the stuff he's teaching in class or about how he used to be a hacker. I think that's why my grade for a certain subject was exactly 50 out of 100 (the minimum to pass).

And one time, it got me bumped up a bit.. the prof just said
"what was your mark for the rest of the course before the finals?"
"38"
"really? it says here you got 43?"
"it does?" (me being stupid)
"Yup, that's an A-, not a B+, you twit. I don't see what you're complaining about."

If you're going and begging or threatening for better grades, it ain't gonna happen. And if you skip class or sit at the back or don't show any initiative to work hard, you certainly won't get a grade bump. And if you're lazy and plagiarized a paper and didn't get caught.. by all means, do not ask for it to be remarked.. because that's extremely stupid and will get you caught.

[Sowelu]

One of my prof's was actually talking about a trend in some universities in nudging students grades a bit. Basically student=customer, and they don't want the customer to be unhappy, so professors are told to boost test scores, etc.

Keep that in mind if you're handing in shit work and getting good grades.

The student isn't the customer.  They're the product.

[LegoLord]

Unless it's the student working for the money that's paying for said student's education.  Then they are somehow both customer and product.

[Sowelu]

Public universities are often very taxpayer-supported, and even private ones get lots of donations.  These donations and taxes frequently come from the people and corporations that want to hire the students who go through the college.  So yeah, employers are paying universities to educate people into effective workers.

[LegoLord]

Not in America.  We have to pay for our college ourselves 

[Sowelu]

Yes, we do, AND there is public funding.  Also financial aid and scholarships etc.

[Muz]

Not everyone gets financial aid. Heh, the reason US unis are so expensive is because the govt doesn't put a cap on the price, they just raise scholarships to whatever level they charge on it.