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[Firnagzen]

Then I set the lever controlling the drawbridge on repeating Pull.

Why not use a pressure plater instead of the lever on repeated pull?  If you do though, I advise building a bridge before *and* after the pressure plater, as there is a lag after they step on the plate, and so the back ones don't just get to run away (muhaha)

Hmm.  I hadn't thought about that.  I'll have to research pressure plates and see what triggers them.  (I'm too nice - I let the elves live.)

Or you can make a spiked floor, with upright floor spikes, but have, say, 6 kittens and each kitten linked to 1/6th of the spikes. You now have spikes that randomly shoot up out of the floor.

 


Kitten powered death machines are always amusing.

Or... Build 10 or so tiny little drawbridges linked to pressure plates! Imagine it... Continuous wave of motion, flying goblins, goblins being smashed into oblivion...

[Captain Xenon]

Once upon i time, i chained a tame dragon behind fortifications, then blocked LOS with floodgates. when the trolls came i learned two things- First, trolls will destroy iron floodgates. second, dragons wont bother to try breathing through fortifications
dragon lived, but was useless for the flaming goblin surprise defense. 

another map, i put defense on the edge of the map, with channels between em to save time in covering most of the edge with weapon traps. it worked... but sadly the LONG walk to the edge to retrieve all the iron to smelt was the flaw of that plan.

havent done any 'interesting' defenses in a while sadly. just the usual 3-wide wagon-path of death. well, i have balista and catapult lined up just in case, but nothings gotten that far in yet.

[Slappy Moose]

Hey, here's an idea for how to do the dragon thing. Put him behind a channel, and put floodgates around him. Then, put him near your entrance, or somewhere slightly confined (so marksdwarves need to be within burn distance to shoot).

This way, trolls wont break the floodgates and he can still fire it up.

[HexagonalBolts]

It's more Dwarfy when you've got more than 100 of anything.

Like that time I built a Fortress on the Desert and covered the entire ground Z-Level with Stone-Fall Traps. That was over 16,000 I think.

Dude that means you pressed B -> shift + T -> s 16,000 times

That means, just to build that, you pressed 64,000 keys.

That's like... more times than i've masturbated for christs sake

[varkarrus]

When pooling liquids go in.. how about a corridr that lashes them with whips, and then dumps prickleberry juice in the open wounds? (and drowns them in citrusy goodnes?)

My god, you are a GENIUS!

i need some way of actually removing their skin first, however....

Love, jakkarra

Tie them up and bring them to a tanner's shop. Make Goblin leather.

[Arathanar]

Freeze them in Carbonite. And/or Obsidian.

Simply build a 1x1 prison, with a bauxite door. Then, give the prison a removable roof, through which lava and then water may be poured. Simply channel out the prison, and you've defied the Conservation of Mass AND eliminated an annoying and needy prisoner!

BONUS: If the obsidian leaves behind a stone, make a statue out of it and and place it in your highest ranking noble's room.

[GoneWacko]

It's more Dwarfy when you've got more than 100 of anything.

Like that time I built a Fortress on the Desert and covered the entire ground Z-Level with Stone-Fall Traps. That was over 16,000 I think.

Dude that means you pressed B -> shift + T -> s 16,000 times

That means, just to build that, you pressed 64,000 keys.

That's like... more times than i've masturbated for christs sake

I guess that in situations like these, having a 'gamer keyboard' like the G15 that has programmable macro buttons, start to pay off. Situations where you have to repeatedly press the same key combination that is. I do not condone masturbation involving keyboard.

Right now my PC is broken and I've not bothered plugging the keyboard into my laptop, but when my PC is fixed I will definitely have such macro keys as 'down, enter' for when I want to mark everything in my Trade Depot for trade...

But I digress. And have nothing interesting to say that would even remotely be considered on topic. Woe is me.

[Martin]

I guess that in situations like these, having a 'gamer keyboard' like the G15 that has programmable macro buttons, start to pay off. Situations where you have to repeatedly press the same key combination that is.

With one of the macro tools, it's also easy to have it build out a region of traps. I had one that would create a 3x10 hallway of upright spike traps (10 spikes per trap) with a single push of a button. Just needed to make sure that the only mechanisms and spike weapons were the ones that were suitable for the task (a bit of item forbidding ahead of time).

[Nerserus]

You can have pits with spikes. Just get weapon traps with menacing spikes in them at the bottom of a 1 z level drop ( Have 10 wooden ones...The enemy dies slower HAHAAH ). I swear. It must be as satisfying as hell to see an elf drop down and paint the floor in his own blood and guts. Viva le sadism!

[Kittah_Khan]

I make a bridge over a pit as my main entrance and under that I have a walkway of grates supported by very high stone pillars

b = bridge
g = grate
s = floor with statue
a = air
w = wall

front view of walkway with the bridge above it :
wbbbw
wgsgw
wawaw

top view of walkway :
wgggw
wgsgw
wgggw

now, I have two levers on repeat, each assigned to the grates in alternating bands like so :
1 = lever1
2 = lever2

w121w
w2s2w
w121w
w212w
w1s1w

now, have the two levers in different states
then get them to repeat, the grates will alternatively open/close while still leaving a path to traverse
when an enemy is spotted the above bridge is raised, having the alternating grate walkway as the only way in.

inevitably, they move onto a grate that opens under them, destination is lava, pit, water, floodable pit, zombie/undead storage pit, whatever your fevered little mind can think of.

I'm pondering the use of water-triggered pressure plates to mechanize the grate switching process, any ideas ?

[Asehujiko]

When pooling liquids go in.. how about a corridr that lashes them with whips, and then dumps prickleberry juice in the open wounds? (and drowns them in citrusy goodnes?)

My god, you are a GENIUS!

i need some way of actually removing their skin first, however....

Love, jakkarra

I prefer EVIL Genius.  And if I recall correctly, aren't HFS created w/o skin?

Along this same track... I want to be able to drown enemies in vinegar... or better still, formaldehyde. 

Molten glass > All that. After it cools, you get a 3d picture of a elf/goblin/megabeast/noble burning to death which can then be placed in the dining room.

[Koki]

I'm currently trying to figure out a way to dump some lava on the top, creating a thin layer of obsidian which occasionally has pockets of air underneath it, but its really hard to rig it so that they just don't get encased in obsidian and receive a merciful death.

How about dumping the lava somewhere near and simply scalding them to death instead?

[madrain]

Then I set the lever controlling the drawbridge on repeating Pull.

Why not use a pressure plater instead of the lever on repeated pull?  If you do though, I advise building a bridge before *and* after the pressure plater, as there is a lag after they step on the plate, and so the back ones don't just get to run away (muhaha)

Hmm.  I hadn't thought about that.  I'll have to research pressure plates and see what triggers them.  (I'm too nice - I let the elves live.)

The best way for an automatic system is to chain up a kitten. Then surround it with pressure plates. You can do this by limiting the space it can roam in to just two squares, with one having the chain and the other having the pressure plate. Link the pressure plate to whatever you want. Then as the kitten wanders about, it will continually trigger the pressure plate, thus slaughtering entire armies of goblins.

You can chain up more kittens, linking more pressure plates to the same mechanisms to have it triggered even more often.

Or you can make a spiked floor, with upright floor spikes, but have, say, 6 kittens and each kitten linked to 1/6th of the spikes. You now have spikes that randomly shoot up out of the floor.

 


Kitten powered death machines are always amusing.

I have been working up a maze that enemies have to pass through in order to make it into my fortress.  Tho not completed, the plan is to have the aboveground portion of my fortress house the trade depot and a few other things, with a retractable bridge to close up the main entrance.  I had planned to chain a kitten as bait at the end of the maze so that enemies would path to it and find their deaths to stone fall traps, etc.

Now I have both useful bait and an interesting lottery to see if they can make it through the maze without getting punctured.  I think it will be so amusing that I will link the bridge with maze entrances so dwarves stay out when the bridge is down.. enemies making it through the maze will be allowed entrance to the bait room, with doors linked to pressure plates near the end of the maze protecting the kittens from anyone making it through.  Perhaps another door can open when that pressure plate is activated, releasing captured baddies into the room to fight with the attackers..

Hmm.  I wonder if I can make it work.

[Pie]

Basically I have a standard entrance to my fort which I close off in the event of attack, making the invaders instead path to a route which snakes back on itself over and over for several whole z levels, and then they go up a tower that is hugely high (top of the map), that is connected by a couple of bridges to the second tower entrance to my fort. The bridges are directly over the main entrance to my fort, which is open from the top, but closed to the side. The bridges retract. They fall a long way down. For a second before they explode on impact, they are inside my fort. I just love the fact that they try so hard and spend so long trying to get into my fort only to have their wish granted, but in a totally horrific way. Needless to say, my main entranceway is peppered with body parts and narrow iron boots (I could burn it all up in magma but I prefer the horribly gory mental image).

[Itnetlolor]

Remember back when in Subject: Mega Project? Tricky one. . . Need suitable location., I mentioned my crazy Moses entryway system? (my idea in full in 1st spoiler)

Well, I found the picture. The edit is at the bottom of the post (with 2nd spoiler).

I just wanted to update that I found the pic. I'm gonna see if it can possibly work like I illustrated it to. I can just freeze the ocean/lake and carve into the area to build it, right? I'll submit the movie when I get around to it with the machine in action with power switches. Hopefully, no drawbridges would be necessary to make the area walkable. This is just going to be a run to have proof of concept.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Why bother with the walls? Just rely on a colossal array of pumps, windmills, and water wheels to keep the seas parted.
If you get sieged? Turn them off. SLOSH.

You can even dig under and put in hatches so that you can survive the sea crashing down on your head.

I remember reading about someone who built (in DF) square platform with pump array that was pumping water from ocean back to ocean creating something similar to whirlpool that touched ocean ground and allowed direct access to ground.

I had a similar idea sometime ago as a method of entering/exiting the fort.

Inside there lies a lever that turns on the coastal pumps, a small building resided under the water area that drains and there are towers that continually pump upwards to give the water extra time to fall and then waterfall downward. There was supposed to be like 5 of them working in unison using upwards to 8 pumps apiece at least from the sea-level floor. And there also lied a small mass of windmills and/or waterwheels on the sides and tops of the towers as well to power each one individually.

Oh, and these things need to be tall enough to displace enough water, and render it as harmless as possible in the flooding department as it drains and maintains. Just think of massive kitchen sinks. Partial aqueducts would be used as well to further displace the water and prevent the water from backing up. Lots of Z-axis and a ton of materials required, but it should look freaking cool when finished and operational.

It's essentially supposed to be a prettier way to have a submersible/subterranean entryway for a fortress, invader/seige-proof. Just be sure not to have the floodgates open before activating the device.

I believe I made a sort of concept sketch somewhere. I need a moment to find it, but I think it would explain what I mean better than I can illustrate in ASCII characters.

Here's a 1-Z 2D sample of my idea (using 3 towers): With walkable beach path created by towers.


≈≈≈≈≈≈≈WWW≈WWW≈≈≈≈≈≈≈
≈≈≈≈≈≈≈WWW~WWW≈≈≈≈≈≈≈
≈≈≈≈≈≈≈WWW%WWW≈≈≈≈≈≈≈
≈≈≈≈≈≈~O**%**O~≈≈≈≈≈≈
≈≈≈≈≈≈~~%%~%%~~≈≈≈≈≈≈
≈≈≈≈≈≈~~%%~%%~~≈≈≈≈≈≈ <--- Main drain tower (Usually tallest and widest to provide most waterfall time and collection.
≈≈≈≈≈≈~~O%%%O~~≈≈≈≈≈≈                         Seeing as it's the deepest in the water, it lightens
≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈~%%%~≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈                         the load for the pathfinder towers. Adjust accordingly.)
≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈~~~≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈                                               |
≈≈≈≈≈≈~~O===O~~≈≈≈≈≈≈                                               |
~~~~~~~~|▼▼▼|~~~~~~~~ <--- Entryway with closed floodgates          |
~~%%%~~~OXXXO~~~%%%~~                                               |
WO%%%O~~:...:~~O%%%OW                                               |
W-*~%%~~:...:~~%%~*-W <--- Water pump towers ( -1z sea level)  <---/
W *~%%~~:...:~~%%~* W                                                           ____________
~O%%%O~~:...:~~O%%%O~                                                           |   ~~~~~~~~
~~%%%~~~:...:~~~%%%~~                                                           |~%% |     ~~
~~~~~~~~:...:~~~~~~~~                        Tower build idea w/ pressure  ---> | %%~|    ~~~~~
          ^  \--Suction waves formed         2x intake to add to out power       ~%% |     ~ ~  ~ ~
          |                                    as well as drain faster.        %% %%~|   ~ ~   ~  ~
           \--------Moses' Walkway at least -1z below sea level             ~~~~~~%% *WWW


EDIT: (See outside)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

It took some time, but I finally found the picture, and I colored it in to clarify how it would look. It was a concept sketch, so quality is not an issue. And yes, those are waterwheels and stacked windmills in the background.

EDIT:
Oh, and BTW, the POV is supposed to be +1 or +2 Z above the entryway. And the towers are built to scale at least 6-8 Z tall.