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[MrWiggles]

I don't.  I just believe he's there and did, or rather, in some way very vaguely influenced, that which was necessary for us to even exist.  It was unlikely, and it is amazing that we even got to the point where we could stick seeds in the ground to try to get stuff to grow when and where we wanted it to.  Then there is the possibility that this is happening, or something similar to it, somewhere else.

Hell yes humans can be awesome on their own.  That's kind of part of my belief, that he would let us become what we can be on our own.  Yet, there is nothing ruling out the idea that he's not there.  Go ahead and believe that.  I just want you to know that I hold it as little to no whimsy behind nature.

Edit:  I don't know what he did, if he exists, but I believe he's there and did something.  Maybe just start things off for everything.  I don't know.

Have you read a book called Moving Pictures (Terry Pratchett)?  It's got some interesting ideas on how reality could be different than what we think.  Basically why I believe in the face of lack of evidence.  We don't know of any places like that in the book, but hey, who knows?

Then your belief must be at its core, arbitrary. There no reason to pick any other religion as they all lack for evidence.

Though I think this to be possibly harmful, as it allows other claims to be accept without merit, as long as you crit. thinking for other aspect of your life.

[LegoLord]

One could potentially say the exact opposite of what you said:

Your lack of belief is, at its core, arbitrary.  There is no fact saying there are no gods - as atheism lacks evidence.

Being on the grounds of lacking evidence of other views automatically means there is no evidence for atheism.  My point here is not to prove you wrong, but to show you how pointless it is to try to convince me I am wrong.  Now, stop being so intolerant.  I believe there is a God.  End of story.  Not your business.  Stop acting like it is.  You don't believe.  End of story.  Not my business.  Stop acting like it is.

[Ampersand]

There is a giant pink dragon flying behind the Andromeda Galaxy that will destroy you unless you sacrifice your first born to it.

Prove me wrong.

[LegoLord]

There is a difference between an explanation for phenomenon we have no evidence for and pulling some random thing out of a hat and saying it's real.

[MrWiggles]

There is a difference between an explanation for phenomenon we have no evidence for and pulling some random thing out of a hat and saying it's real.

No there isn't.

There no way to authenticate an explanation without evidence.

[Antioch]

There is a difference between an explanation for phenomenon we have no evidence for and pulling some random thing out of a hat and saying it's real.

the pink dragon created the universe! now its an explanation.

That IS the point, what IS the difference?
my words:

Theory A is a theory is a theory that has nothing to prove or disprove it.
Theory B is a theory is a theory that has nothing to prove or disprove it.
Theory C is a theory is a theory that has nothing to prove or disprove it.

Theory C contradicts theory A
Person 1 believes in theory A
Should person 1 also logically believe in theory B as it has the same reasons to believe in it?

Should person 1 believe in theory C because of the same reasons? Even though it contradicts with the original Theory A, thus believing at least in 1 theory that must be false? (A and C cannot be true at the same time)

[MrWiggles]

One could potentially say the exact opposite of what you said:

Your lack of belief is, at its core, arbitrary.  There is no fact saying there are no gods - as atheism lacks evidence.

Being on the grounds of lacking evidence of other views automatically means there is no evidence for atheism.  My point here is not to prove you wrong, but to show you how pointless it is to try to convince me I am wrong.  Now, stop being so intolerant.  I believe there is a God.  End of story.  Not your business.  Stop acting like it is.  You don't believe.  End of story.  Not my business.  Stop acting like it is.

If Atheist was the claim, then sure. Atheism isn't a claim. It the default position of the god claim.

The default position of all proposed truth is that its false. For a truth to have validity it needs to be challenged and have evidence in support of it.

[Idiom]

The default position of all proposed truth is that its false.

I still want to hear where you're getting that from.

[Ampersand]

Because if we say that the default position for ALL proposed truth is that it's true until proven otherwise, we'd all be wearing tinfoil hats.

[MrWiggles]

Because if we say that the default position for ALL proposed truth is that it's true until proven otherwise, we'd all be wearing tinfoil hats.

Thank you Ampersand. Elegant and to the point.

[LegoLord]

There is a difference between an explanation for phenomenon we have no evidence for and pulling some random thing out of a hat and saying it's real.

the pink dragon created the universe! now its an explanation.

You sound like that child on the playground playing guns with another kid, the one that always says he just managed to dodge before getting hit.  Right there, you are changing the rules.  It's something different from what it was when first proposed.

Also, has anyone been destroyed by it for not sacrificing their first born?  No.  In this particular case, you are saying it does something that we know for a fact does not happen.  You can see this by looking at records of everyone's first born.  A lot of them end up growing up, in case you haven't noticed, and the parents might die of, say, cancer or a car crash or from just being old.  You've pulled out of a hat some random explanation for something that does not occur.

Now as far as creating the universe goes, we don't know how the hell that happened, not for sure.  We have no way of monitoring the event.  No records.  No way of detecting whether or not there are gods to do it.  Maybe there weren't, as I said before, but there's nothing saying that it is a fact.

Edit:  Basically, how do you know you are right if the opposing side cannot be disproven? (this question applies to you whether you believe in a religion or not)

[MrWiggles]

There is a difference between an explanation for phenomenon we have no evidence for and pulling some random thing out of a hat and saying it's real.

the pink dragon created the universe! now its an explanation.

You sound like that child on the playground playing guns with another kid, the one that always says he just managed to dodge before getting hit.  Right there, you are changing the rules.  It's something different from what it was when first proposed.

Also, has anyone been destroyed by it for not sacrificing their first born?  No.  In this particular case, you are saying it does something that we know for a fact does not happen.  You can see this by looking at records of everyone's first born.  A lot of them end up growing up, in case you haven't noticed, and the parents might die of, say, cancer or a car crash or from just being old.  You've pulled out of a hat some random explanation for something that does not occur.

Now as far as creating the universe goes, we don't know how the hell that happened, not for sure.  We have no way of monitoring the event.  No records.  No way of detecting whether or not there are gods to do it.  Maybe there weren't, as I said before, but there's nothing saying that it is a fact.

Edit:  Basically, how do you know you are right if the opposing side cannot be disproven? (this question applies to you whether you believe in a religion or not)

I love it. You said his position was wrong as it lacked evidence.

It doesn't have to be disproved. It has to be proven. Without proof, then it nothing.

[Idiom]

Because if we say that the default position for ALL proposed truth is that it's true until proven otherwise, we'd all be wearing tinfoil hats.

And if we say the default position is false and not even worth looking at until we happen to find otherwise, we'd be lucky to be as far as the middle ages right now.

[LegoLord]

I love it. You said his position was wrong as it lacked evidence.

But there was evidence against that in that no one has been destroyed by purple dragons for not sacrificing their first born.  Therefore, the only possible idea is the one that fits what is happening.  Can you think of a way gods don't fit what is going on in the world around us?  Can you think of some part of omnipotence that is contradicted by what we have observed in reality?

Observation:  We exist.  Something may have made us.

(you) Observation:  Someone doesn't agree with me.  I'll make up some bullshit to explain some nonexistent phenomenon.

[Ampersand]

When you observe that We Exist, someone may have made us is not a natural assumption to make.