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Total Members Voted: 25

[NUKE9.13]

Eh
No thanks.
A vote-manipulator is just asking for trouble. Because then it depends on the player chosen as to how effective your role is; choose someone who's idea of a pokerface is reflective sunglasses and your tinkering is going to be noticed pretty soon; however, choose a more talented individual who is good at bluffing and making up reasons, and you could not be noticed at all.

[webadict]

Eh
No thanks.
A vote-manipulator is just asking for trouble. Because then it depends on the player chosen as to how effective your role is; choose someone who's idea of a pokerface is reflective sunglasses and your tinkering is going to be noticed pretty soon; however, choose a more talented individual who is good at bluffing and making up reasons, and you could not be noticed at all.

So basically, when I start acting weird...

[Pandarsenic]

Yeah. Unless it's a total conversion, the person will just vote and refuse to say anything else - everyone know what's happening.

[dakarian]

Actually, part of the neatness of the role is that the person WILL be trying to ruin your attempts.  Since the chosen's goal remains the same and, chances are, you are their enemy, they will make any attempt to let everyone know what's happening.  The role restriction is to just make it more....interesting.

The point is that the manipulator has a free vote and doesn't have to play dumb about it.  They can use it to force a tie, stop a lynch, attempt to kill someone, or just bring chaos and WIFOM for all.  The town ends up knowing it's happening BUT doesn't know who's doing it. 

The #1 best part, though, is that the only true sign of it happening is the words of the one being 'manipulated'.  That means it's pretty easy for someone to 'act' controlled.  Since the only way to find out whether it's a townie being controlled or scum acting the fool is to either find/kill the manipulator or lynch the 'chosen', it's lots of fun WIFOM for ALL.


Oh, and an incentive to stop the person from lurking:  If they lurk or otherwise fail to follow orders, they die AND the day ends.  Thus, not following along will cost the town a mislynch. 

[Pandarsenic]

Will their roleflip show they were controlled?

[Alexhans]

Hi Meph... I was tired of fulfilling my responsibilities so I learned the basics of Perl. 

I like it very much. 

Can you send me the scripts (and needed csv's) for the latest paranormal builds?

[dakarian]

Nope.  Roleflip says nothing about it. 

Neither does killing the manipulator show that anyone was controlled

[Eduren]

If they lurk or otherwise fail to follow orders, they die AND the day ends.  Thus, not following along will cost the town a mislynch. 

Actually, I think all regular lynches should still happen when a Controlled person kills themselves.

[dakarian]

Problem, though, is that it means it's best if the controlled person just lurks instead and lets themself die.  Messing up the town with crazy votes and wifom is worse than just leaving the game alone and ruining the entire point to the manipulation.

And if we let that be then the role is just a one shot vig.

There has to be a good, STRONG reason for the controlled person to actually come in and accept the control.  Accepting the manipulation to avoid losing the day will do just that.

[ToonyMan]

I was a townie in Paranormal 10.

Being townie isn't as fun to play as a role with an ability.  I only have logic to guide me.

[Leafsnail]

I was a townie in Paranormal 10.

Being townie isn't as fun to play as a role with an ability.  I only have logic to guide me.

What are you talking about, Toony?  Now you get to spend all eternity drifting around in space with me, RedWarrior0 and Apost.  It'll be fun!  I'll get the marshmallows.

[ToonyMan]

I was a townie in Paranormal 10.

Being townie isn't as fun to play as a role with an ability.  I only have logic to guide me.

What are you talking about, Toony?  Now you get to spend all eternity drifting around in space with me, RedWarrior0 and Apost.  It'll be fun!  I'll get the marshmallows.

IM THE ONLY NORMAL DUDE

[Leafsnail]

It's clear that you're Arthur Dent, or someone similar then.

[webadict]

I was a townie in Paranormal 10.

Being townie isn't as fun to play as a role with an ability.  I only have logic to guide me.

What are you talking about, Toony?  Now you get to spend all eternity drifting around in space with me, RedWarrior0 and Apost.  It'll be fun!  I'll get the marshmallows.

IM THE ONLY NORMAL DUDE

At least you're not stuck with Janus every time...

[JanusTwoface]

At least you're not stuck with Janus every time...

Come on... I've only kidnapped you twice...

Granted, last game I was the only living person you could talk with after awhile, but still.

Don't worry, I'll try to target someone else next time.