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[webadict]

As for boosting the power of Doppelgangers in small Towns, I think Doppelganger specific Modifiers would be a way to go. They're really missing a bit of passive power to their roles when they kill. Something that's one-shot is gonna give them more power without breaking the game too hard. Like, for instance, giving the better Active role a one-shot Kill Immune gives incentive for the Doppelganger to kill, as opposed to just giving it to the weakest power role. Heck, giving each of them something different that makes them something more powerful than a normal Townie might be better. Two Dopps with these powers can fight stronger Towns, so coming across a strong Power role wouldn't be out of place in those cases.

This would mean coming up with some, but fear not, as I have ideas. For balance and player reasons, I think telling the Doppelganger when these are used is for the best, and purposefully not using them should also be a choice:

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Bone Plating
One-shot kill immune
Flavor: This Doppelganger had issues merging with the Human correctly, but bits of their skeletal system were hardened as a result.
Caveats: Remove Tough Doppelgangers. I think this would be a better way to go.

Hunter's Camouflage
One-shot Tracking immune
Flavor: This Doppelganger was a hunter from birth, and maintains a bit of its Doppelganger skills and instincts even still. It can change its human's skin color, height, weight, but too drastic of a change and it's gone forever.

Reflexive Shapeshifting
One-shot Inspection immune
Flavor: This Doppelganger was particularly adept at changing forms, and was particularly cunning. As such, the first time this Doppelganger is inspected by an Agent or Detective, it can choose to be a specific role and race.

Calm Mind
One-shot Psychic immune
Flavor: This Doppelganger doesn't resonate well with their human, creating a psychic resonance that makes it hard for Espers to even go near them.
Caveat: This is like a weaker Mind Shield. Or, it could be a one-shot version of the stronger Mind Shield too.

Stalker
Appears to use the same action as its kill target
Flavor: Since this Doppelganger stalks its prey, it can appear to use the same physical actions as its target while hunting.

[Mephansteras]

Hmm, interesting ideas, web.

I have mafia idea. First though, how long do you need to setup Mephansteras? I'm willing and able to wait.

Also night yall.

Depends on what you mean by 'how long I need'. If you mean whip up another Paranormal, pretty quickly if we've got a full roster of people who want to play again. I could even whip up this particular bastard game pretty quickly, since I've been thinking about this idea for a while now. Probably a few days in sign-ups to try and get more players and then a day or two for me to do all the role work and flavor.

[TricMagic]

Probably go ahead with that then. I wanted to run an Among Us flavored game.

Spoiler: Roles to be determined. (click to show/hide)

Admin:  Each Night, the Admin can target a player and determine who they act on that night, if anyone.

Comms Operative: Each Night, you can add 1 player to a personal chat.

Security: Each Night, you can watch the cams to see who acted during the night.

Medical: Each Night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will be protected from one kill that night.

Electrician: Each Night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player's active abilities will be blocked that night.

Pilot: Each Night, you may target 2 players. Assuming no interference with your action, actions against a target will target the other instead.

Weapons Operator: Each night phase, you may attempt to kill another player.

Storage Manager: Each Night, you can investigate another player, determining their role. Mafia members will show up as Crewmates.

Crewmate: Your goal is to find and vent the imposters before they kill you all. You have no special skills beyond voting.

Imposter: Your goal is to kill the Crewmates. No special ability beyond being able to perform your team's nightkill.
Saboteur:  Each Night, you can sabotage a player, disabling their abilities for that night.
Venter: The Venter's actions cannot be tracked. Any abilities used against you will return a 'no action/failed/crewmate'-type result.

Depending on number of players, how many PR there are would differ.

[Caz]

As for boosting the power of Doppelgangers in small Towns, I think Doppelganger specific Modifiers would be a way to go. They're really missing a bit of passive power to their roles when they kill. Something that's one-shot is gonna give them more power without breaking the game too hard. Like, for instance, giving the better Active role a one-shot Kill Immune gives incentive for the Doppelganger to kill, as opposed to just giving it to the weakest power role. Heck, giving each of them something different that makes them something more powerful than a normal Townie might be better. Two Dopps with these powers can fight stronger Towns, so coming across a strong Power role wouldn't be out of place in those cases.

This would mean coming up with some, but fear not, as I have ideas. For balance and player reasons, I think telling the Doppelganger when these are used is for the best, and purposefully not using them should also be a choice:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Bone Plating
One-shot kill immune
Flavor: This Doppelganger had issues merging with the Human correctly, but bits of their skeletal system were hardened as a result.
Caveats: Remove Tough Doppelgangers. I think this would be a better way to go.

Hunter's Camouflage
One-shot Tracking immune
Flavor: This Doppelganger was a hunter from birth, and maintains a bit of its Doppelganger skills and instincts even still. It can change its human's skin color, height, weight, but too drastic of a change and it's gone forever.

Reflexive Shapeshifting
One-shot Inspection immune
Flavor: This Doppelganger was particularly adept at changing forms, and was particularly cunning. As such, the first time this Doppelganger is inspected by an Agent or Detective, it can choose to be a specific role and race.

Calm Mind
One-shot Psychic immune
Flavor: This Doppelganger doesn't resonate well with their human, creating a psychic resonance that makes it hard for Espers to even go near them.
Caveat: This is like a weaker Mind Shield. Or, it could be a one-shot version of the stronger Mind Shield too.

Stalker
Appears to use the same action as its kill target
Flavor: Since this Doppelganger stalks its prey, it can appear to use the same physical actions as its target while hunting.

I like it, and totally fitting in with the 'doppelganger' flavour right now it seems like aliens get a lot more lore-specific powers than dopps.

[RoseHeart]

1) You CANNOT trust the flavor to tell you what is going on. It may be accurate, or it may be deliberately misleading.

That seems a good balance. And if it is just the flavor then it smacks of fair AND entertaining.

(So long as there is this disclaimer!)

I feel though even for regular games, would you really need to label the whole game as bastard, if you just had this and its' disclaimer? No opinion on being pro bastard or pro standard for the next Paranormal I join, but even my experience in the current session could probably benefit from this. The fact that the dog was female and I didn't know it gave Web something extra to claim for Tric. It was perhaps not contradictory to what I was told, but it was random, and extra, for a similar action.

And I'm all for it.

[RoseHeart]

Glad you enjoyed the writing!

Medium is a bit tricky in some ways. It is reliant on luck (the medium living long enough to have two with useful power roles die and have info to give) and on the skill of the medium. A scum medium can really put words into the mouths of dead townsfolk if they're good, and that can add a lot of weight to what they say. So I'm a bit torn on the whole 'quoting the dead' thing. It's strong if everyone is sure the words are from the dead person, but strong both in favor of town or scum depending on who the medium is.

An early medium claim with powerful pro-town info like that is pretty rare. I'd say this is probably one of the most influential cases of a medium I've seen in a game. Heightened by the small number of players, really.

If Paranormals keep getting such small numbers of players I may need to rethink the weights on some stuff. It was really all built back when getting 12 or more players was the norm, and that has a huge impact on how much any given power role really has on the game. Plus the loss of any one player (town or scum) has less of an impact in a larger game.

However, the ban on quoting flavor like the dog is probably wise. I don't think I usually see people use it like that, which is surprising because I'm sure I've had various flavor tidbits between night actions before that could be used. Maybe I used to just limit those to death scenes where it mattered less?

Gosh, I sure hope you keep cross flavor, and just balance for it. Gosh, I sure hope you keep cross flavor, and don't break the toy because it's tricky. Extremely immersive, cross flavor is.

Edit: Just provide a lot of chances for differences in perspectives to make it unreliable. Like the dog gender.

[Mephansteras]

Bastard Paranormal 3 is up in sign-ups for anyone who wants to join in one that.

[Mephansteras]

Paranormal Mafia 27 is now in sign-ups for anyone interested!

[webadict]

But you won't get, say, a Tough/Reporter dopp or anything like that.

Another idea to add:  Dreipelganger.  A Doppelganger made from consuming two (or more) humans, gaining multiple or combined roles (Say, an Agent/Detective that performs an investigation of both Race and Role.)

Some more to put on the Doppelganger plate from my previous list:

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Starved
Effect:  Delayed Role (Gains their Role on a later Night)
Flavor:  This Doppelganger consumed a human that was insufficient to properly maintain their old memories.  They must kill and devour again before they gain their Role.
Reasoning:  This could be used to give Doppelgangers a stronger role.  Also, Doppelgangers being able to change roles partway through games makes them feel better.

Metamorphic
Effect:  One-Shot Role Change or Gain
Flavor:  This Doppelganger has the capacity to evolve beyond its normal body.  At any point in the game, this Doppelganger can shapeshift into a new known role, gain a shield, or some other benefit through metamorphosis.
Reasoning:  I feel like there's not a lot of understanding on how Doppelgangers work, but they clearly lay eggs, so why not let some of them metamorph?  Actually, does that mean there's a Doppelganger Queen?  Actually, this makes them seem more like insects, which I like, but might not fit into the lore.

Picky
Effect:  At the beginning of the game, choose between two Roles.
Flavor:  This Doppelganger is very selective about its food, taking more time before choosing its prey.
Reasoning:  More choices = Better.  Heck, this could be extended to the entire team:  Let the Doppelgangers choose which Roles they are at the start from a list!  Picky would just let them add another Role to choose from.  I feel like the Doppelgangers don't always need choices, but letting them swap between Roles feels well within their wheelhouse.

Mimicker (Doppelganger Type)
Effect:  (Once per game?) Actions targeting this Doppelganger and another Player are swapped.
Flavor:  This Doppelganger was gifted with the ability to mimic its prey, down to even their voices and mannerisms.
Reasoning:  Busses don't exist in this game, and the best Role to allow Bussing would definitely be a Doppelganger.  I'd actually make this fail to work on other Doppelgangers.

Doppelspränger (Doppelganger Type)
Effect:  Can perform an additional Action while performing a Kill.  (Or maybe just double Action in general?)
Flavor:  This Doppelganger is able to think and move faster than a normal Doppelganger.
Reasoning:  Give some Dopps some fake claims, please!