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[webadict]

Well, if there are two aliens, the Scientist Alien and some other alien, and the other alien dies, how can the Scientist wins?

Further, if the Scientist Alien abudcts the last remaining Doppelganger, will the game continue? If the game does not continue, then the Alien Scientist would lose, as he did not abduct a human and an alien.

If he's down to only one doppelganger and he hasn't captured another player, I'm pretty sure he was screwed anyhow.

Also, I think that there are enough aliens in most games to ensure that the first questions should be answered yes. If there are no more of anything, the Scientist would lose. That's his fault for not capturing when he had the chance.

[Mephansteras]

Ok, so here is the revised Alien Scientist:
Race: Alien
Goal: Find
Tech: 2 slots
Rules: The Alien Scientist is on earth to capture one example of each species for study (1 human, 1 doppelganger, 1 alien). Each night he may choose to Abduct a player. If that player is of a race he does not have, they are removed from the game and kept for study. If he already has one, they are returned to play the following morning. Once he has 1 of each, he wins and he and all abducted players are removed from the game. If he is killed, all abducted players are returned to the game. If the game ends and he does not have one of each, he loses. He only obstructs the win condition of the Exterminator.

Abduction: When a player abducts another player, two things happen. First, the abducted player is role-blocked for the night. Second, that player is removed from play for that night (and possibly the game). While removed, they cannot be the target of any other night action and cannot vote or be lynched during the day. Exceptions: The Paranoid War Vet and Sentry Gun are not role-blocked by an abduction, and will kill the player attempting the abduction.

Does that seem to cover everything we talked about?

[JanusTwoface]

... and will kill the player attempting the abduction. ...

If this is what that last line meant, I think so.  Looks shiny to me.

[Mr.Person]

Alien Survivor can't win if he gets abducted, right? Can the Exterminator win if he gets abducted but everybody else manages to die anyways? These are corner cases, yes, but I want you to think about them.

[ToonyMan]

Ok, so here is the revised Alien Scientist:
[snip]

I like it.  Hopefully I get it Round 7!   

[Mephansteras]

Alien Survivor can't win if he gets abducted, right? Can the Exterminator win if he gets abducted but everybody else manages to die anyways? These are corner cases, yes, but I want you to think about them.

Hmm...I'd say yes to the first and no to the second. The Exterminator can't win if the Scientist get's away (since there is proof of what happened).

[JoshuaFH]

Is the abduction attack prevented by the protector, bodyguard, or whathaveyou?

[Mephansteras]

No, its a Roleblock and I think being able to prevent the scientists abductions would make it too hard for him to win.

[JoshuaFH]

Then what would a telepath see him as? "Find"? "Abduct"?

[Mephansteras]

He's listed as 'Find'

[Alexhans]

Meph.... would you be mad if I call for an MC right from the get go in the next game?

I maintain that the game is breakable if you do so...

what's the current normal-townie-or-common-dopp vs PR rate?

[JoshuaFH]

and I take it that since players that are abducted in this fashion are still able to get back into the game (since if the scientist dies, the players are released), a player that is abducted won't have their role and alignment won't be revealed, is that right?

Also, where would he go in the priority schema? At the same time as the dopp seeker or at the same time as a regular nightkill?

I kinda like this, as it also makes it tough for a survivor alien to claim, since if a scientist is around, then he can just snatch him up without worry.

[ToonyMan]

By the time Paranormal Round 274 comes around I think this game will be balanced.

[Alexhans]

By the time Paranormal Round 274 comes around I think this game will be balanced.

As long as it is fun...

[webadict]

By the time Paranormal Round 274 comes around I think this game will be balanced.

As long as it is fun...

lol, but then we'll have about 700 roles