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Total Members Voted: 25

[Beacon80]

I think that's a good idea.  It would really suck to sacrifice yourself to save someone from an alien, only to have them get eaten by dopps anyway.

[Kashyyk]

How about just bumping him up to the 'Elite Bodyguard' role?

When he dies protecting someone his attacker dies too. (Like a PWV)

[Twiggie]

or have him show the protectee who the attacker was before he dies

[Mr.Person]

or have him show the protectee who the attacker was before he dies

I like this. The Bodyguard defends against all attacks for the night, kills all attackers, and then tells the protectee who the attackers were (in case they didn't die.)

[Pandarsenic]

or have him show the protectee who the attacker was before he dies

I like this. The Bodyguard defends against all attacks for the night, kills all attackers, and then tells the protectee who the attackers were (in case they didn't die.)

Doing ALL of those is a bit much....

[Mephansteras]

Yeah, all of that together would be too much.

[Twiggie]

indeed. i vote protects against all and tells protectee who all the attackers were.

[Pandarsenic]

indeed. i vote protects against all and tells protectee who all the attackers were.

Maybe the bodyguard can choose the "areas in which they were trained" and choose either protecting against all, telling who attackers were (useful for if there's a Medium when more than one attacks or if a Protector and Bodyguard stack up defenses), and killing an attacker (probably in the order of Dopp/Exterminator/AWV for whom they'd choose to kill if multiple attacks happened, for the sake of fairness).

[Mephansteras]

Hmmm, that has promise. What does everyone else think?

[Kashyyk]

I like it, and second the idea fully.

[Twiggie]

thirded.

[Pandarsenic]

I feel happy and competent.

[Alexhans]

Role precedence is NOT fair...
If a bodyguard succesfully protects he should kill any and everyone who attacks his protegee.

If you still want to make a precedence...  the Alien should be last because he is the one with less chances to win.

You realize that telling who the attackers were will quickly trade one dopp for a medium?  making all the games lineal...

Bodyguard dies...
Medium gets the info... tries to out dopps privately and then outs himself...
they lynch the new dopp...
maybe the medium is protected... maybe not...
obviously he will be watched...

It's gonna be ALWAYS like that... therefore boring...

Bodyguards should stick to what their role originally is...

sheltering someone and killing their attacker but dying in the process.

I still don't like the whole medium role wich i believe was created to leave dead players a chance to do something and it's only a gold mine for town if used effectively...

[Pandarsenic]

The Medium may not EXIST and the bodyguard has to choose his power before he knows.

Also, the traditional bodyguard that I know of tells the protectee who attacked them.

[Alexhans]

what's the point?
It's obvious that the attacker is scum... 

The Bodyguard is a name for many roles:

    * A role that functions like a normal Doctor.
    * A role that functions like a normal Doctor, but dies if the protected player is attacked.
    * A role that has a 50% chance of successfully protecting the target and finds out his target's attacker, and a 50% chance that the Bodyguard dies instead.
    * A role that kills the attacker of the protected player (also known as Elite Bodyguard).